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Episode 19 · 1 year ago

The Death of Kendrick Johnson: Accident or Something More Sinister?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In January of 2013, the body of Lowndes High School student Kendrick Johnson was found on campus under very mysterious circumstances. It did not take long, however, for his death to be ruled an accident. As more people began paying attention to this case and more evidence came to light, including a confession from one of Kendrick's fellow classmates, it has started to look less and less like what happened to Kendrick was simply accidental. Could the young boy have met a more sinister fate? 

Petition to have Kendrick's Case Re-Opened: 

https://www.change.org/p/united-states-supreme-court-justice-for-kendrick-johnson

Places to Donate to the Black Lives Matter Movement: 

https://nymag.com/strategist/article/where-to-donate-for-black-lives-matter.html

Sources: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLQfCEHPPxKLKbrS3U3CiUXkicPCd2aaz_&v=n0pfMRlZnzk

https://valdostatoday.com/news-2/local/2017/08/was-a-potential-witness-in-the-kendrick-johnson-case-silenced/

https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/19/us/kendrick-johnson-death-probe-georgia/index.html

https://crimecasecollection.tumblr.com/post/180341260388/third-autopsy-reveals-foul-play

TW/ Kendrick's Body: https://rollingout.com/2017/08/10/kendrick-johnson-parents-teen-gym-mat-death-forced-pay-300k/

TW/ Kendrick's Body: https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/teens-at-center-of-kendrick-johnson-investigation-deny-involvement-warning-graphic-pics.913552/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBX9ft6z67A

http://valdosta.sgaonline.com/2010vdt/pdfs/KJohnson_second_autopsy.pdf

TW/ Kendrick's Body: https://heavy.com/news/2013/10/kendrick-johnson-georgia-mat-death-conspiracy/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFglgQZ2cOQ

Hi and welcome back to did you lock thedoor of the PODCAST, I'm your host painton reese, and I have a familiarvoice with me today. It's me again, yeah my friend, William wilvor short.He was with us on the POLYSLODUCI episode and the Gannon Stouk episodesso we'll come back. Thank you, wit'H, fantastic, to be back fantastic to haveyou back so today we're going to be talking about a case that has literallybaffled me since the second I heard about it. It's it's pretty crazy. Idon't know, but it's pretty crazy inprefare and it's also been broughtback into the spotlight recently with the blacklives notter protests thathave been a lot more prevalent. This is one of the cases that people have beenlike calling out for justice, and so I thought- maybe I could be kind of a voice in that is, isdefinitely a case that shouldn't be closed. There are too many questions Ithink for law enforcement to have made a definitive ruling already. So Idefinitely think this is one that needs to be talked about, which is why I'mbringing it to you all today. So today we're going to be talking about themysterious to say the least: Death of Kendrick Johnson, so Kedrick OmarJohnson was born in October, tenth N N, nine Hutdred, N. ninety five to parents,Kenneth Johnson senior and Jacqueline Johnson Heanis family lived in ValdastaGeorgia, where Kendrick attended, louns high school he's described as sweetsand Qut the light of the household by his parents. He was known for hisbright smile, humble spirits and his love of sports. He played basketball and football andhe dreamt of eventually playing for the NFL and on January tenth to thousandand Thirteen Kendrik was actually supposed to be attending one of thesebasketball games. So his parents weren't that worried when he didn'tcome home at his usual time that evening, as I'm sure, a lot of usremember, any sort of sporting event in high school usually started somewherebetween, like four PM and six PM, and sometimes they'd run even later thanthat. If the timing was off at all, so of course, when he didn't come home,his usual like three thirty pm his parents, weren't freaking out, he wassupposed to be playing basketball, that's what they thought he was doing when it did get to around nine pm,though Jacqueline who just reminder was Kendrick's mother was beginning to getkind of worried. Kendrick definitely should have been home by then, but shedidn't think she needed to allert authorities just yet she waited anotherhour till it was around ten, and now she knew that. Maybe she didn'tneed to call the police quite yet, but she should probably go and do somethingI mean after all, Kentrick did have school the next morning so like if itwas ten pm and he wasn't home, I'd be mortified yeah, I think both of Ou r, Ithink both of our moms would have in high school if we weren't home by thewould be raising how to Fi, I ois, but anyway, O when it did get to bearound ten PM. She knew that she should probably o something so she hopped inher car and she drove to the high school to see. If maybe the basketballgame had just run late and Kendrick wasn't quite home yet or he didn't havea ride home. He was set to walk. So she thought maybe she'd see him like on theroutes and at the same time she was callinghis cell phone and receiving no answer, and she was calling around to peoplethat might know where he was and she was either also getting no answer, or Idon't know so when she finally got back home from driving around a little bitafter midnight. She immediately called the police to report her son as amissing person. The next morning, Jacqueline got upright and early to head back to Laun's...

...high school, to put up missing person'sfliers and to spread the news about condric's's appearance and the hopethat one of his fellow classmates would know what had happened to him or wherehe was upon her arrival at the school Jacqueline learned that not only hadKendrik not come home last night. He had actually been absient from histhird period class and all of the classes that came after it. So thisobviously only served to confirm jacqeline suspicions that somethingvery very bad had happened to her son around ten thirty am that morning. Somestudents hanging out in the gym noticed what lookd like socks, sticking up outof one of the rolled up wrestling mats and they thought that was a littleweird oyeah. So they walked up to get a closer look and when they did, they were surprised to find whatappeared to be a person rolled up inside the matc, good God, not yet realizing the magnitude of whatthey had discovered. The kids moved the Mat, so I'm sure a lot of us arefamiliar with what wrestling mats or treeleading mats, whatever look like inhigh schools they're. Those giants like gem core mats that are always ore,usually sitting vertically in the corner of Your Gym of Your High SchoolGym, always want to climb them. Just O Workan like try to dunk unsadly. U, but essentially so it's it's thosenots, it's the really big tall mats when they're standing vertically andnormally they're used for wrestling or for theelining or for some sort ofsport. Like that, that's a contact sport. The students had discovered what lookedjust like a person that was stuck, but when they moved the Mat from sittingvertically to sitting horizontally, there were kind of smells that came upthat didn't sit to right with them kind of this, what they described as a smellof blood, vomits and slight decomposition, my God, and so theydidn't really investigate further, which I don't blame them. Theydefinitely shouldn't have they just went right to school administration,who called the police and also issued a lockdown order for the high school andthe lockown order was issued because it was believed that a body had been found. Sadly, Jacqueline was still at theschool handing out missing persons fires when the discovery was made andthe school administrators actually not the police had the what I'm sure was avery difficult job of telling her that a body had been found inside one of therolled up. GINMATS and that it was very likely her son Kandrik. Well, that'sgot to be for the school administrators to have to like tell Hemombo yeah theyweren't trained for that again, Monito, not their job description, yeah. Eventually, the body would be confirmedto be that of Kendrick Johnson. He was found upside down so when the mat wasvertical, his head was facing. It was near the floor and his feet were likecloser to the top of the map. One of his arms was stretched out in front ofhim and the other was by his side. So it's almost like, like kind of like hewas swimming. You know and like like that H, yeah and two pairs of shoeswere also found near his body. One pair was sitting. I don't know how to describe it really,but it was sitting inside the mat with him next to his legs near the top ofthe Mat, and we don't know if they were the shoes that he was wearing that day,but they were literally just like so his legs are sticking straight up outof the mat and the shoes are just sitting very nicely placed right by hislegs. That's the first pair of shoes, the other pair were actually not foundtogether. One pair was found outside of the Gymmat just sitting right next toit, and the other was found underneath Kendric's head inside of the Mat, soessentially Kendrick's head was not touching the floor. His head was a couple of inches abovethe floor and then the shoe was like in the middle of NAT on the floor. But,interestingly, there was a small pool...

...of blood underneath the shoe that hadbeen found inside the mat with Kendrik, but there was not blood on the shoe andI'll actually show you a picture of that shoe right now. If you have anycomments that see so you see the shoe like on the top ofit, you'V got it as if it's untouched, it's as if itwas put on Tor. It ended up on top of the blood that was already there 'causeit's a black and white shoe, but there's enough light for an led hadbeen dripping down from it would be on the shoe and even on the black. You cansee that there's no like stains on the black part. It looks very clean. Myquestion is th the the fishhart about this all from Ro Whan. I can tell fromthis already: Why didn't he? Just if, if his shoes were in OAT, the bottom,why didn't he just mee perso Wa, just pushd The mad over and got my shoesfrom there wouldn't have gone over. I mean what are they going to tell you wthey? I just casually get yelled at for the Ma being on the floor. I actually Ihaven't knowed about that. We'll definitely talk about that. I thoughtthat was really weird as well. So, in addition to there being a pull of bloodunderneath the shoe but no blood on top of the shoe, there was blood on thewall right behind the Gymmat in which COUNTRC had been found, and there wasblood on some paper towels that were in the girls bathroom. The blood on boththe paper towels and on the wall were tested and they didn't Latch Kendrick,but they were only tested against Kendrik. So we actually have no ideawho they actually did match too 'cause. They never tested them to anyone else.So there is Super Fun and notfishy at all. Wow, O pretty straightforward. After the initial autopsy done by theGeorgia Police Department, Kendrik's death was pretty quickly ruled anaccident. The coroner had come to the conclusion that Kendichad died fromquote positional assxiation endquote. The explanation put forth by the policewas that Kendrik had simply fallen into one of the mats while trying to get hisshoes and that he just hadn'bee able to get himself out many students of LounsHigh School, actually not Duscendrick, either didn't want to or didn't havethe means to pay for a locker. So it actually wasn't uncommon at all forstudents to hide their shoes in and around the gym mats, and they wouldjust like put them there at the start of Jim Class and they would grab themat the end. So it makes sense why his shoes would be there, but that's kindof the only thing in the snarrier. That makes sense I mean I I understand maybesay he just like threw his shoes and it kind of fell in and they like fellintwo different places, which is why one shoe was on the outside of the GymMat and one shoe was inside. But again, like you said earlier and like we'lltalk about later, I just don't think he would have gone from the top of theGYMNA. Yet to get a shoe that fell inside to Abota. On top of the hell youPOW, he climb off, the GIMMAS are pretty close to the bleachers, so hecould have just climbed the bleachers and like crawled on top of the matsfrom there, but it still doesn't make much sense. Nd Yeah, we'll definitelyget into that later. Guys. Don't worry so essentially the police were sayingthat he didn't have a locker which we know he didn't so he had just thrownhis shoes. One had gotten stuck, and it was just an accident that, when tryingto get the shoe Hendric had gotten stuck in the middle of this gym matsand couldn't find his way out. What first stands out to me as really weirdregarding the gym Mat he got stuck in was the space that he had apparently crawled. His way into,or slippe ind fell, intwo and was stuck in was actually several inches smallerthan the width of his shoulders. The with of his shoulders was nineteeninches and the diameter of the circle in the middle of the gym mat that hehad fallen into was fourteen inches. So in the minds of the police, he justfell into a whole, several inches smaller than the with of his shouldersand eventually suffocated,...

...and obviously I can see if you foundhimself in a tigpt place like that insuffocated. Obviously he wouldsuffkaye. That makes a lot of sense, but it does not seem possible to methat a man with a nineteen inch shoulder with just slit and fell into afourteen inch diameter Jim tat hole. They said they found him like this rihwith his hand. Technically Faciyeh, so one hand was out almost like it wasreaching for the shoe and one hand was tucked in next to his body like along his torsomean I could probably see how he may have. I don't think he just likeslipped wouldn't be surprised. No, I mean I could see how he wouldphysically. You could fit someone into it. That makes sense, but as to how hehimself did it, it doesn't make sense 'cause, even okay.So if you put one arm forward and one arm really close to him, that mightmake the with of his shoulders a little bit smaller, but not enough for him tojust slicky Follyam yeah, no Ou. None of this makes sense. He just he wouldprobably have to do a lot of work physically to get himself or just likea lot of sliding down in it. Wouldn't just happen: He'd have to really try toget himself in there and there were other students. I mean this is themiddle of the day. This is right before third period, so there so before themiddle of the day, even there should be other students in the gym, and we knowthat there were other students in the gym that likely would have seen himtrying to get into the gym Mat. My question is, then: I don't know if we're going to probablytalk about this further into it, but what happens to fourth, fifth, Don Ow,how many periods this school has, but fourth, fifth, six, maybe even seventhperiod Di. Nobody just hear someone just I don't know how long it takes toa FIG ailing for hell, yeah or, like I don't know, moving gemettor no Questiyeah. We y talk about that more yeah. It's this is nothing is not a weird case. So, like I said right off the Bat, Ihave a lot of problems with the police's theory. We've alreadymentioned that the Gymmat, the diameter of the hole in the middle of the gymattwas a lot smaller than Kendrick, and you know hes. He plays football right.He does play football yeah, so we's built too, like you can see pictures ofhim. He looks like a big dude, but, like you were saying earlier, Iactually did cheeleading in high school and we worked with these mats a lot andif one of my shoes had fallen into the center of the Mat, I would have justlike lifted the mat up and grab my shoe out from under it 'cause the mats.Aren't they aren't light but they're not particularly heavy either. So Iwould have just kind of tilted the mat up a tiny bit, so it was leaning onanother mat. It wasn't falling over or anything the way that they're spacedtogether. There are other mats around s. You could just lean it up a little bitand I would just crab my shoe. It would never even like ever have occurred tome to try and go in from the top and grab my shoe and all even then, even if you wouldn't saythat you wouldn't do that, I mean then I'd probably just tell my teacher, heymy shoes underneath the mat mm. Can I get my shoe s all iwill probably ask,and then, if he told me now, then I find someone that Hell Bekim my shoeand I can see a world where he doesn't tell a teacher, because I haven't heardanything about whether or not the teachers knew that students put theirshoes and the gymmats. So if it was something they weren't supposed to bedoing, I can see him not telling a teacher, but if his first thought was go from thetop, but he realized he couldn't get in there. I don't see what he would tryand force himself in there. I mean I don't you would think logically, hisnext step. Oh, I can't fit. Let me just lift the bottom, with the mat up just alittle bit grab my shoe we're all good. At some point, your thought has to be go from the bottom, since that's wherethey're at I don't know how tall are these gymatsthey're plagues, six foottoo they're tal my my first Ta Lieceis...

Life. Bottom, I don't know- maybe maybeI'm missing something, but it doesn't make sense itss. I can't see a largefootball player looking into a tiny hole that he obviously can't fit intothinking. ENVEING, like I'm Gong, to go down there and e I'd go through andgrab my shoes. Kendrick was a perfectly strong, capable person that could havejust lifted them that up a tiny bit grabbed his shoe and then Ben on hisway or like worse Casein Arriae, Si Postte ntire thing over would exactlyiwould. Take my chances with that. To get my shoe pay for Te, yes, and the next thing I have is, ifyou mention this before, but if Kendrik did fall in, why didn't anyone hear himyelling? For Hope? I mean yes, I'm sure the inside of the Mat is going tocancel out the noise a little dit, but if this guy is screaming for his life,I mean again. He fell in either in the middle of or before third period. So noone heard him yelling all day like an entire school. They went by with thiskid supposedly having slipped and fallen and gotten stock and a gym matthat was not like. If you look up photos of the Shem, the mats are in thegym very close to where the students would be using the basketball court, sothey're close to the students if he was stuck in there for almost an entireschool day. I just can't see a world where someone doesn't hear him yelling,I don't I don't either it doesn't. Even if you couldn't hear him, wouldn't yousee it moving because he's probably struggling in there? I don't know ifthe MAT would move, but the kids that found Kendrick found him because theysaw that his feet were still sticking out the tops. You think you would seeFeedja, like maybe roun, around yea, and also just like okay, even if he was feeling prideful and he didn't want toyell for help for like an hour or two. I can't see him going the entire daywithout yelling for help, because at some point it's not pride anymore. It'slike I'm really stuck, and I'm not going to get myself out of this. I needsomeone else to help me yeah. I just don't see a world where heeither didn't yell for help or no one hurt him yeal for Helph it Jus doesn'tmake any sense to me. I don't think t that would happen. There actually is some footage of threestudents playing basketball in the gym at the time that Kendrug is thought tohave gotten stuck in the Mat. Sorry, however, the camera that would havebeen pointed directly at the maps and therefore would have caught whathappened to Kendrick wasn't working correctly the day that he died,definitely not suspicious at all, also winterviewing, the footers that isavailable from that day. There are some time jumps in it which lead Kendrix,family and all their supporters. Understandably, to believe that thefootage was doctored in some way, so I actually have the footage pulled up. Ifwe'll watch t really quick- and you can just tell me- you find it weird at all wait so, but from the looks of itthey're all laying down all the ments were laying down or was that onestanding up so the mattslet he falls into or the Mat that he bols into isnot inframe there, and it's because that Camema wasn't working that day,which is so convenient, yeah Ysualy, but Um. There is a picture online. JustGoogle, Kenderjohns and mats and...

...they'll come up. A couple of the matsare laying down, but then there's a group of what looks like six or moremats that are standing up in the back and he was found inside. One of the matso was standing up. Okay, I know you had wanted to talk about how long itmight take someone to suffocate from positional Aspixia, as the originalautopsy said that Kendrick did. So if you want to go ahead and talk aboutthat all hand over the rains really quick. Well, I looked it up and in twothousand and nine a man named John Jones died after spending twenty eighthours stuck upside down in the cave, so it turns out from what I'm readinggranted. This is on Cora dotcom, but from what I'm reading here turns outyour lungs evolved to sit atop all the other organs for a reason, delicateorgans that they are, but it says that a man was able tosurvive twenty eight hours, but I've also seen a lot like twenty four hoursh what happens when you're hanging for twenty four hours, so at some point atleast when he supposedly foul. Is there not a teacher in the gym at one pointafter th, the period ends where he just is screaming. I fell. I fel like noabsolutely I just there's no world to me where he doesn't start screamingafter at most an hour after he's, stot yeah cause okay, if you're embarrassed,if you're shy and you don't want to alert people, but if I'm suck I'mpretty shy and if I'm suck for an hour- and I know I can't get out it's time-to make noise- oh no soon as I get stuck I'll, just ost I'll lllet,everyone know, but that's weird, that there's too many things that just don'tline up that make it like. Like you said it doesn't makesense that it's just an accident. I completely disagree. It doesn't makeany sons and also regarding the video footage it looks like you, can seethree boys playing basketball and then, at one point around the middle of thevideofootage. You see Kendrik run in the bottom right corner towards thegymnats, but it does. I mean it's not consistent footage like it's, notfootage that is consistently streaming. They are very obvious. Cuts like theboys playing basketball will be in one part of the gym and one second e h andthen the next second they're in like totally different point y. Ah, andobviously that could be how that camera is that to record. But that's weird-and you said something earlier about that- maybe they have a strict ruleabout you know, leaving your shoes around but they're like Kindof, wearingcasual clothing, e you'd, wear at a basketball court, so it doesn't seemtoo strict. I do a lot Ohem adout well again late. It seems like they'repulling U straws to make it sound like it's an accident yeah and that couldplay into why it might have taken him a little bit of time. Se Ell out forhelp B'cause. He knew we get in trouble, but again he got stuck either at thebeginning of or in the middle of third period and most high schools go throughseventh periods. You're telling me he was so afraid of getting in trouble. Hewas stuck for like five hours and didn't make a sound, yeah and justchose to just you know what I'm on a sho yeah no duck upside down in a verytight space with no way of getting out, and he just didn't yell for help. Whilehis feet were pointed out of the Matike, no administrator. No one just casuallysaw it like to to find it the next day and it wasn't even a mistery Ju thatfoundit whowas other students and it didn't take them long at all. To findhim the next day it was round ten a m B when they did find Kendrik, so there'salso a basketball game like with all the people that were there. Even ifnobody just chooses to look in that area, you mean to tell me thateverybody who is watching the basketball game just chose to see soctspointin. I hadn't even thought about that. Oh, my God, yeah there was abasketball game in the gym and no one, no Dar snow students, and none of thismakes yeah dude. No, I hadn't even...

...thought about that. That is crazy. Oh Shat yeah that does not make none ofthis makes Om. I'm evl. This is me person, H T if I can see if I see cashon the ground, I cand. So if I see be Li e, if I see sockspouiing up on in, I think that they're, just poles, theyre casual stocks, don'tstand on their own. I would assume that that seems to be a pretty big brow.I would have told like a coach or something yeah. 'cause, okay, in asmall town, a basketball game like a high school basketball game going on ina small town people show up to that like that, is all there is to do. HIGschools, like you know I I went to maybe one of the harmony high schoolgames and that place was packed. You know my sister was in was part of theteam. I just never cared to go. Lik normally like th. That place was packedwith many with a lot of fellow students, but a lot of parents as well. No onethought no one' sel feet, kicking either 'cause like that that that's,like I mean waving a flag at you. You know none he was killed. I Don' know there's my evidence to goover, but I don't fault you at all. Coming with that conclusion. So far, soas we've said, the conclusion that the police and the state have come toalready is that this was just a tragic accident. Understandably,Kenjricjohnson's parents were not satisfied with these findings and theyactually reached out to a reverend floyd rose, who was and Romayns theleader of the Valdosta Southern Leadership Conference. They asked himfor his help in putting together an independent investigative team to lookinto their son's death and he agreed, and he and his team have actually beenworking very closely with Tha Johnson family, also sin state almost since day,one to help them find answers and in April of to thousand and thirteenactually so a couple months after Kendrick had died. The Johnson familystood holding hands in front of the louns county courthouse in protest, andit only took about an hour fo officers to arrestKendrick Johnson's family for civil disobedient, because a black family wasstanding civilly in front of a courthouse to protest to death of theirson, yea and floyd rose. Who is the reverend wejust spoke about actually offered his own home as collateral so that he couldbail all of Cenjrix family members out of jail. So gravonflod rose is a verycrucial part of this case hand, a very good man, clearly the following month, so may of twusend,and thirteen the Johnson family would hold a fun raising event that wasactually hosted by Al Sharpton. Who was not only the founder of the NationalAction Network he ran for president in the past. He was almost a: U S,president, so a pretty big deal pretty big name and actually from thefunraiser they raised about five thousand dollars to help in their fightfor their son and a local businessman named Roy Tayler donated ten thousanddollars to the Johnson family. That was to be used as reward money for anyonethat could help them figure out the truth. So so far they have aboutfifteen thousand dollars and reward money for any information broughtforward regarding what actually happened to Kendrick because of themoney and support that they'de been getting, the Johnson family was able tohire their own pathologist, a man by the name of Dor Wim Anderson and heactually performed a second independent autopsy, so independent of the Stateand the Georgia Police Department in August wo, twoend and thirteen, and he made a p, he made a prettyshocking discovery. The first thing that he noticed when he begun hisautozy was that every single one of Kendric's organs, even his brain, weregone. No one knew where they were and not only were they gone. They had beenreplaced with crumpled up newspaper...

WH, wait what Ya the corner the firstcorner didn't then find this. Will I assume when the first corneropened him up, the organs were still there. I am assuming that the crumpled upnewspaper was put there by the original person that performed the automcy Ho was also the same person that lostevery single one of his organs. Wat, LOSSOM, they're gone they're, CA, corn, gone ak them outyeah, which is actually not uncommon practice, but in a case that is still unresolved like this case, it is, it isuncommon practice and it is certainly not common practice ever to fill bodieswith newspaper with crumpled up newspaper I mean sometimes they usecotton, because when you're prepping a body for the funeral, you do need tostuff it with something to make sure that it holds its shape, but it hasn'tbeen newspaper in about fifty sixty years, so just just so that I can understandthis so the previous corner, who ruled it in accident casually Pobay, not casually, butnonetheless removed. All of this kid's organs anddecided that the best way towhat make it seem like nothing happens, stuff it with newspaper okay, if it's an accident- and youdon't think that you have any more to do with this body. Okay, I understandyou're going to stuff it and get it ready for the funeral. It's incrediblydisrespectful to stuff it with crumpled up newspaperbut. I can understand so. Iactually smoke to my friend Hanna who works in the Medical Examiners Officeand she said that her office keeps organs, Andor, organ Tissue Aminimum ofsix months after an alltopeis performed which okay, so the first oftops he wasperformed in January. This one is August, that's little bit more than sixmonths so Oky, maybe if they had just thrown away the organs, but the organswere thrown away right after the initial autopy in January, and he wasstuffed with crumpled up newspaper right after the initial autopsy inJanuary, so disrespectful so suspicious. So Weird, like I'm dumb fond of Li tobe completely honest, they perform the autopsy at first and then justimmediately tossed out his organs like what and so disrespectful to fil getgrumpled up newspaper when that hasn't been common practice, and at leastfifty years you kin, I mean that's that, like God, you would hope that a cornera license corner would know. Maybe we shouldn't use crumple? U newspaerly andyou know if you don't have the the tissue- or you said, the cotton, the Y botton yeah.If you don't have it you just kind of wait: Godnso, you have cotton which oure not that hard to acquire, but no just stuff hem with newspaper and throwout all this organs or no expornation, but other things that are also ofinterest that were found during this autopsy is doctor Anderson discovered apretty small bruise about three quarters of an inch on the right sideof Kendrick's neck and the discovery of this bruise led him to label the causeof death, as quote unexplained apparent non accidental blot forest traumaendquote. He also notedd that the brews indicated quote rapid onset deathendquote and that his death was not consistent with positional Aphyxia withtheir suspicions. Now pretty much confirmed by Doctor Anderson, theJohnson family began to get a bit more vocal about who they believed to beresponsible for what happened to their...

...son. So now we're going to get a littlebit into suspects and I'm very excited to hear your thoughts on this. So the only two people that really haveever been named are two brothers named Brian and Brandon Bell, both classmatesof Kendrik, while Brian and Brandon both claims and both publicly claimd tothis day that they were really good. Friends with Kendrick Kendrik's family,especially his mother, maintained that the boys were never friends. In fact,they were quite the opposite. Kendric would often like very very often almostdaily come home, complaining about the bullying that he experienced at thehands of the brothers Kendrick's mom, and this is documented,had even gone to the school months prior to Kendric's death. To complainabout Brian Bell, specifically because of how out of hand she felt hisblliying of her son had gotten MHM and on August sixth thousand and seventeena man named Ryan, Anthony Hernandas claims that he was hanging out atBrandanbell's home when Brandon made a full confession to him that his brotherBrian, had struk Kendric Johnson in the neck and head with a dumb bell during afit of Royd rage which killed him almost instantly and that brandonhimself, along with their mutual friend Ryan. Who is the one making? Thisconfession helped stage the scene afterwards to make it look like anaccident, and I actually have that written confession pulled up. So I'llread that for you in more detail quote, my name is Ryan AnthonyHernandas and I am over the age of twenty one years of age. I am givingthis decoration voluntarily and I have personal knowledge of the facts statedherein and I know them to be true. I met Brandon Bell in April of TwentySixteen and, on one occasion was with him at his apartment in JacksonvilleFlorida when he told me that his younger brother killed Kendric Johnson according to Brandon Bell, Brian Bell,Ryan Hall and Kendrick Johnson were in the gym. When an argument between Brianand Kendrick began, the argument was about or over Brian's girlfriend, according to Brandon Bell, Brian wastaking steroids at the time and out of Qute Royd rage, endqte or the effectsof the steroids he struck. Kendric Johnson, in the nect, with a forty fivepound weight or dumbell Brandon Bell stated that Brian Bell, apine that the ffore mentioned blow may have broken Kendrik Johnson's neck. According to Brandon, Bell, Ryan Hallwas a witness to the fight and Brian Bell told Bryan Hall that if he didn'tkeep quiet and help him move Kendreck Johnson's body, his father, who was nowa retired FBI, special agent named Rick Bell, would make sure that he Ryan Hallwould quote pay for it. Ndquote Jesus rist Soin, like a sitof, reg Yo, usecasually grabs, fwenty five pound platinist wow roid rage is definitely not anuncommon side effect for people that take steroids like. I can absolutelyabsolutely seeing that happen and also in terms of other evidence that lookslike it might have been doctor like the surveillance footage that very much looks edited like I, itobviously is edited and you can tell that there are cuts and the oan it cuts.A lot like they'll be staged at one point: they'll take up a shot and thenthey're all staged again to go for another shot, no rebounds, nothing yeah,and the fact that Brian and Brandonbell's father is a former FBIagent, and we actually didn't mention this earlier. But until about the pointin the investigation where the second autopsy was greenlint and gone throughwith the parents of Kendricg Johnson were actually not allowed to view anyof the security footage. The school...

...kept it secret from them for as long asthey could, they actively requested it almost daily and they were activelydenied almost daily until months after their child had died, and after theautopy was performed after it was ruled in accidents. They were finally allowedto see the footage, so a lot of fishy things to say themvery, very, very leaseah d. does it say at all if thereis likeI'm assuming, there's a weight Roo right that allows them to start liftingweights and so on? I haven't seen a lot about that. But, yes, I believe thatthere is a weightroom. They don't. We have a camera in there. No, I don't know his like ione's, really deep yeah.There are a lot of theories and stuff about this case online, but in terms ofactual facts on the case you really have to Digdtlik. I dug very deep forwhat I have and thereis even a lot of holes in what I have like. Obviously,there should have been a camera in the weightroom, thenkendric was supposedlymurdered, and but apparently there wasn't so oa we'll find out, but do they take hisconfession legitimately or no webslutes and supporters of Kendriks family tookthe confession seriously. However, according to police, they have certainevidence that refute and or disprove, Ryan's confession to begin with, one ofthe brothers we have not been told which one was caught on Surveiland'svideo on the opposite side of the school during the time in which it istelieves that Kendrik either fell into or was stuffed into, the mat and theother brother was at a wrestling tournament, and apparently this one iscorroborated by both eye witnesses. An footage have we got to see any of it, no surfor real. Initially, it wasbelieved that the travel logs relating to the wrestling tournament had beendoctored to fabricate an alibi for one of the brothers. However, it has sincebeen proven that one of the brothers at least wasdefinitively not on school property at the time that Kendrik likely went intothe Matt, I'm assuming this has to have beenquote definitively proven andqute by eye witness testimony. That is the onlyway that I can think of it being definitively proven, or I guess, withvideofootage, but again with it being pretty obvious to me that the footagethey have of Kendrek going into the gym is at least slightly edited. I don'ttrust video footage, so I'm guessing they have to have a lot of witnesses or they don't even have to have a lotof witnesses if they want to doctor some bidio footage and say na he wasn'tin th, even in the shol, they could totally do that from from what we read there at nopoint does who's the one that th give theconfession: Grinanthony r yeah, Ryan Anthney Herna is yeah so Rineran end.Is He ye and no point states the time or anything, so they haven't found himsince stirred period? No one knows for how long year was going on. So that's based off of what they'veconsidered the time of death, but I would assume that that a confessionlike this is not only to be taken completely seriously and to be seen:okay, wel. If that's the case, then could there have tought? Could there bea way that you could time him to be there? And I mean it's a school. I I'veended up numerous times on the opposite side of my school, but I end up havingto go to Noor examcle the gym, because it's a different Erin I've, a lot ofthought about that. We do have a third altopsy discuss, but then we'll getinto theories about whether or not it was the bell brothers. Maybe someoneelse, Yeeh Wel, we'll get into all F...

...that we definitely have a theoriossection waiting for all of room RTO. Yes, so actually I there was notanother autopsy done until late, twesanty, eighteen, so from ID othousand and thirteen ate twean. Eighteen, that's how long it took, buta third autopsy would be performed. This ATOPSI people largely do try todiscredit it, because it was also done by an examiner, an independent,examiner hired by Kendric's parents, but I would like to think that amedical professional hired to do this autopsy wouldn't just tell the parentswhat they want to hear. They would tell the parents what they actually find,but I have no way of confirming that. So obviously take this as you will, butin this autopsy it was concluded that Kendrick had died from quote nonaccidental blunt forct trauma to his neck endqute, which is consistent withthe findings of the second Autopsi and consistent with what his parents havebeen saying all along, and it was consistent with again the bruise foundon Kendrick's neck during the second ontopsa that no two out of three Eh twoand three. I I take my chances with T th, the third one. I agree the Johnsonfamily believe that the police and the original corner being so quick to ruletheir son's death an accident and to throw out a lot of the evidence coupledwith what they believed to be altered. Security footage from the day thatKendrick died all point to a conspiracy and a coverup to hide what the BellBrothers really had done. They also believe that this conspiracy wasorcstrated not only by local police but by the brother's father, an agent ofthe FBI with access to all kinds of things that we don't even know about. I mean so one of them casually has a bro as afather who's in the FBI, like ite, nine orais its not like unearnesty. You knowen I s Er and tr, O Conspe, I'm just going to say it's not unheard of. Youknow. We don't know what a parent would go through to protect the the same waythat you know. Kendrick's mom went to the school and was there early in themorning passing out missing persons posters. This dude Ma have thought thatit's good to cover up his sons. What his son natrociously did for sure Iwant to talk about it like in two different ways, because I believe thatKendrik was murdered and put in that not I just have questions about whetheror not it was the bell brothers. In my mind, there are two different Senariosthat played out. I mean, I guess I'll, go with three because obviously, firsttheory, it is possible that this was an accident that Kendrik just didn't. Dothe smartest thing when reaching for his shoe and against all odds,especially physical. He just slipped into the mat and unfortunately met hisend there. I do find that to be the least possiblesnario, but we have to mention it because well, I feel it's not likely.It is absolutely possible. So I think first we'll talk about. Maybe if itwasn't the bell brothers 'cause, I think that'll be a shorter discussion,so there were other people in the gym at the time that country at the timethey think Kendrick went into the mat. We don't know who these people are. Imean I'm sure the police know who these people are, but we don't. Maybe thereare more people that came into the gym near the Mas Wherea Security, wasn'tcatching them on camera, or maybe there's footage that we, the public,haven't seen that shows these boys that were already in the gym kind ofmeandering to that back portion, but who's to say it was the bell brothersthat he got in a fight with, and that put him in the mat I mean it could be anybody only reason I cansee them specifically is it's not unherd of, for you know a bully or forbulling to get out of hand. Absolutely so I mean you're a hundred percentcorrect who's to say that it is...

...specifically them it's just when you'V got someone alreadytestifying against them, MHM and evidence that it's not to allow to thepublic, yet that proves them innocent. On top ofthat, their dad is an fbd agent or retired one yeah, we'll we'll get intothem later. I don't want to get too istioned to them yet, but I just thinkI think if one student was on steroids at this school, possibly there weremore students that were taking steroids so that they wouldn't be left behindand that they could keep up with they're fellow students. So roydrage is a pretty common side effect. Maybe Brian Bell wasn't the only oneexperiencing Royd rage spells at the time? Maybe someone Kendi didn't evenknow, maybe condrick accidentally just the wrong button. H, someone freakedout as a side effect of the stairways they might have been taking and like aninappropriate c. You know l one of the things maybe againsting, rorll friends, O ye saidthat to Someoel, maybe they r just hit him in the neck, not even thinking, andthen they because, okay, the thing that rules out for me of him being deadbefore he went into the match is that there was a vomet also at the bottom ofthe Mat- and I don't know I've never seen whether or not they did a danateston that volmit. But I think we can assume that it was Kendrik. 'cause, Ijust can't see a perpetrator of vomiting at the bottom of the matchlike.What that just doesn't make sense to me. So I think that whoever put him in thatMat thought they had killed him, but hadn't killed him and he woke upprobably when no one else was at the school anymore and maybe then yelled for help. Maybethen vomited maybe then died of actual Positionalstyxia, but I do not think heput himself or slipped and fell into that mats. Dn. Absolutely now we'll get more into thebell brothers, so I honestly believe or okay, maybe I don't believe, but Idon't think it's impossible- that theyre quote unquote. alibies aren'treal, I think if they have the father that they have or they do have thefolloer that they have. They have a father that is or was very high up inthe FBI and would have a lot of connections and obviously I would liketo think of and consider FP I agents as good honest people, but you're alwaysgoing to have people that aren't so we can't rule it out. Obviously, I thinkthat if it was the bell brothers, one of them hits Kendrak and the neck with a dumbbell. They think they've killed him. They immediately call their dad, whosays hide the body in a locker and a closet. No one ever goes into in someportion of the school. Where you know you probably won't be seenI'll take care of the security footage. We will do something with this body ata later time to make sure that it looks like an accident or at least looks likeyou guys didn't do it so say either in between the time when school, let outand the basketball game started or after the basketball game ended, andthere was no one in the school anymore. That is when his body, if it was thebell brothers, was put into the mat left there made to look like he wasreaching for his shoe and, of course, at the time they think he went into themat neither of the bell brothers or anywhere near where they need to be,because that gives them both solid alibies, which their F bi father wouldknow. Yeah 'cause, you would think that Ye,let you say, tyten one 'cause, apparently one was off campus. At leastone of them wouldn't be able to just casually Um think of a way to stage anbody that way yeah and I mean okay. They have an PBI, dad they're, going toknow more about stuff like that than a...

...normal person, but yeah. I don't thinkthat two high schoolers would be able to sew perfectly stage a body to whereno one can tell if it's an accient or a murder for sure. So that's why I thinkif it was the bell brothers, I think he was hitting the net he was put into themat or I feel like he was rolled up into the mat. I think an FBI agentwould be smart enough to think. Oh, let's put one arm forward he's reachingfor this shoe. You guys. My sons who go to this school have told me that peopleoften just throw their shoes in the mats. His shoe just landed wrong he'sreaching for the shoes, so one arms back hes slipped in. I can absolutelysee N upthe agent coming up with that am just rolling him up that way andKendrick wakes up well after anyone has gone or anyone that didn't do this tohim is gone and he does die o Positionolaphyxia, but not because heslipped and fell into that mat of his own accord because he was put in thatMat because there's no way that a football player with a nineteen inchshoulder with falls into the middle of a gymma with a fourteen inch diameterthere's no way you don't just slip, I mean I. I would guess that my shoulder width islike fifteen sixteen inches and trust me. I have been in and around those mats so muchin my life. There is no way I'm slipping into them. I probably wouldn'thave slipped into one since I was like six years old, there's no way the holesin the middle of those knots when you rolled them up tightly and these matswere wound up tightly they're some mall. They are tiny and they are tight andthey don't move. You know if you see the the picture where they see youshould BA shillis body. It's like it's pretty tight, there'sactually, okay, so we do have a couple more pictures to discuss. I know Inormally do all this stuff afore, I discuss theories, so I apologize twoguys, but I will have will describe some of these pictures to you all. Sowe mentioned before the two shoes that were found like in the mat with him just kind ofsitting by his feet. So these are the shoes they look like athletic shoes.They are grey white and Orange Ljoran and they do yea and supposedly they arethe shoes that Kendrick was wearing when he fell into the mat. But howwould he have kicked his shoes off? They looked placed to me. Not onlywould he have kicked them aff so for those who and obviously you guys can'tsee it so you see the mat and then in it. I is his body stuffed in and theshoes are by his shins, so they're in it. How did they fall in? I just don'tsee a world where he kicked those shoes off, no, absolutely not, there's no wayhe could have. Why would he take off his shoes? Why would his shoes be by his shins aslike they're like right there, but they're like they're, packed in and ifhe didn't kick them off, he would have had to take them off and if his armswere stuck in like a sort of swimming position at his sides, he's not takingthis shoes, no, not at all. Yet no there's no way that, from from what youcan see, which is words 'cause again, the students say that they found hisbod and found socks. They found soccs. But why is thispicture he's inside of it that I was going to bring that up as well?Actually so in this remember, we said that when the students found contricsbody, it was because his tocks and also feet inside the socks were sticking outof the Mat. But this picture is a vertical picture. Taken of the mat thatKendric died in while his body is still in there and his feet are about a footinside the man. Yo know like he's in it and that's likeyou know. If you see the picture you can see like his shoes like if you lookat them like the bottom corner, the bottom lest corner of the shoes they'recrammed in as if they were yeah, theywr, really ny, Anh, as if they were puttinga whole bunch of stuff there, and if this tat was vertical, I believe thatit has been ymade horizontal in this...

...photo, but Kendrick's body has not beenmoved in this photo. So if this mat was vertical and Kendric's feet are in thesame spot, which they would be, you actually wouldn't see his feet.Sticking out the MAT ND, you would not be able to see them at all they're,very far down, which only adds to more of the cover up theory, because youwould not see them UNC, I tha you know, and to you were saying that his hisshoulder with is two inches more. Even now, it's not two inches. It's nineteenversus Um. I believe it's sixteen or fourteen. So yeah, it's actually IT'SNOT UINGES! It's nineteen versus fourteen ECI, a ive inch difference youmeet! So even if they they L, they lowered it down. ht yeah, T's o. Hewould slide yeah caus like even if you look at it, you still can't see all theway down mhm. So it s so like you can see ot across so he's stuck so yeah more to add to that cover upthery here you would not see this boy sticking out in ob, O the Mat, so thenext dayg who found him the names have never been released, butit was, it's always just been stated, as a group of students that werehanging out in the gym the morning after countric ad disappeared, and theyjust saw socks sticking up. Okay, so the next photo I'll show. I is where the is like actually of the mats in whichKendrig was found and in this photo Kendrik will have been removed from themats at this time. But so you can see that the mats are in full view of theentire gymtat. Those are all of the mats that they, even if you see it- okay, so he's six foot tall andrelative to here yeah he could probably get up, but it technically throws my theory outlike why didn't he just pick them Oll 'cause they're kind of all jammed there,but I don't think Sotho Gh. I think this picture makes it look a lot morecondensed than it is you certainy you could ave picked up a mat like youcould? If you really wanted to get your shoe, you could ave maneuvred yourselfin there without much hesitancy and picked up the mat, it might have takenlike a little wiggle room, but no, I absolutely think he could have pickedup the mat and also like. There is absolutely nothing between thebleachers and the mats like there is nothing that blocks your vision or thatwould block your hearing. If he had been inside that nat moving around andprobably yelling for his life, like any normal person, would that would be seenand heard. Noes no question: How many shoes did you say were found. EFORIshoes totald two pairs, the two that were in the mout with him, one at thebottom of the nat on top of blood, but with no blood actually on it and oneshoe outside of the Mat right next to it. So t lets ye, say yeah. Now thatdoesn't make any senses. Let's say he was bleeding somehow don't understandhow he would be bleeding, but if he sort of bleed well, he was bleedingbecause the blood was his but there's no way it wouldn't get on the shoe yeah.That's the point: that's the problem. Howthey didn't get on the shoes at all.They only got on the floor and then on top of it. If you look at the shoesfrom the previous picture, they're in good condition, so this is someone whotakes care of them Whyi. He just casually throw them yeah. I agree, sohe would have had to, in my opinion, throw them for one shoe to end up inthe middle of the Mat and one outside of it, but for an athlete that lovedhis shoes, why would he just Tosh Hem yeah, I just tossed them? Yeah I hadn'tno about it either. Then he saw shs first all roses. o then just nose diveinto the none of this makes ouns yeah it just doesn't it's set up perfectly for an accident,but when you really really really sit down and look at the evidence, I justdon't see an accident here. I see him being rolled up in the mat and theyrolled it as tight as they could with his body being in there and that's whyhis body, like you, know 'cause they could when he's either deceised orpaste out he's not fighting back. You...

...can roll that up tighter as tight asyou can get it if you need to so yeah, I just to me. Theoretically, this would seemik the perfect crime, but I there's a show that I watch calld psych and in itthere's an episode where they're talking about the perfect crime andhe's talking about how he can't solve it, because it was done perfectly andhis dad who s a cop tells hem that there's no sucching is a perfect crime.It's just a perfect coverup and and when you look at thing I mean ivouslyit', a t V show, but if you look at it like this is too well done to look like an accident yeah for sure.So the next picture I have for you, I will let you listeners now I shouldhavewarned well, I didn't, but for these next three pictures we're going todiscuss two of them are or were taken after Kendric had died, so two of themare kind of at minimum shocking to look at at maximum pretty disturbing. So Iwould absolutely exercise caution. One of the pictures was taken after Kendrik's initialautopsy, so it looks like his skin is kind of screnched up and like somethingreally bad happened to him. Obviously, I am of the thought that something didhappen to Kendrik, but when you're looking at the photo that was taken post autopsy,it does look the way it does, because when they did the autopsy they had topeel some skin on his head back. So they could get to the brain and getstuff like that, and then it was put back and then the photo was taken soboth will and listeners. That is why one of the photos that comes up mostoften when you look at country it looks like his forehead is kind of squish,and it is because they had to peel skin forward. His forehead didn't look likethat after he was found. I that does that happen from asphyxiation frombeing upside down myno. A Lot F, like I said his face in this one, is verypuffy and very squish. Looking all cause of how Hi's been was pulledforward, but there is another photo and I'm in a link both of these bhotos. Inthe show notes, I will put a warning next to them and see know what you'reclicking on. So, if you don't want to see photos of an actual dead body, I amwarning you don't click on them. They are graphic. They are ezomed in you,ere, going to see a dead boy so, like I don't want NA sugar coat down at alllike if you do not feel comfortable with that. Do Not Click on theesephotos, but we'll discuss both of them a little bit. So this one right here iswas taken right after he was found, so this is no autopsis have occurred.Nothing yet so this is kind of like that arm, which I believe is his rightarm is above his head. Of course he is unrolled from the mapby now. So this isn't exactly how he was situated, but it is pretty close soy. Once again we see what looks like his right arm above his head, his leftarm at his side there is bloods and I don't really know, nor has ever beenreally explained where that blood came f like if he aphyxiated. Why is hebleeding? You know, y? Ah 'cause, that's kind of a lot of blood. No,absolutely. Why is his face so like inflated? I think that is because hewas upside down more a number of hours, and so the blood in his body did go allto his head into his face. So that does make sense to me, but even then, Idon't think if his blood is all in his head, that it's just going to startseeping out of his skitley like there is. If you click on the picture, youwill see that it's not like a groofsome scene, but there is a good amount ofblood. AH, so why? What? What Hav? What about a SFIX? I would have madehim bleed hm that doesn't make any sense to me, but essentially all thatyou see in the first photo. is you see that, like we've said his right arm isup by his head? His left arm is, at this point resting on his chestbyou cansee that it would have been by his side.

His eyes are closed E. honestly, ifthere wasn't blood and if he didn't look the way he looked, do it almostlike. Hewas sleeping mmthe way that he's laid out but M he's tealthily clothes, andyou know it's. It's a pretty yeah. No, it's it's! It's haunting,it's hard to look at MHM. The second photo of Him Post Autopsi is definitelymore difficult to look at his face. Does look a lot more bloated and squish,but again that is kind of to be expected, because during the automcyhis skin was pealed forwards and then put back to where it was so that theycould get into the brains, but it still hard like. I could absolutelyunderstand if all you see is this picture of so right. Next to the secondpicture of CONJEC, taken after the Autopsi, there is a picture of Kenjok,just looking normal. So if you just saw the picture of Kendrek looking normaland then the picture that was taken post Autopsi and you didn't know thatin all Tup he had been performed. All you'd heard was that this was anaccident and the kid was sound dead. You're going to think that no, that kidwas murder noly. It is a a difficult photo to look at. I don't know if itreally tells us anything other than this boy unfortunately met a verytragic fate. I mean I don't think it tells us anything that the first photodoesn't tell us and okay. The final photo that I want to show you is aphoto of Kendrik's father, trying to fit into the exact same type of gym tatthat Kendric would have supposedly slipped into the exact same diameter.So fourteen inches and kendriks tad is roughly the same size as Countrik, andso you can see that almost the only thing that fits is yeah as his hat andhis shoulders are t super superwide like way too wide. For the whole, thereis no way that hes slipped in even it looks like this. I wish that they hadalso taken pictures with his arms, the way that cenjracks were found, but justlooking at this photo, even if his arms were one by his head one by his side. Idon't see him slipping into the mat, so there's no a exactly there's just no wand also with the texture of those mats. The tecture is like Kindo rough, it'snot a texture that would encourage anything slippery or any sort of slide.It would almost prevent you from sliding, so there's just there's so much about this case again.I totally see how, if you're looking atlake, if you just set back- and you look at the case as a whole- I can seehow it looks like an accident, but when you start really getting into theknitty gritty andto the details, there is just no way this kid slipped andfell into the mat. There's no way- and I am not fully convinced that it wasthe bell brothers, but this kid did not die thy accent. This kid was murderedand he deserves justice as a murder victim. I think we're going to do finalthoughts. Now we've talked about a lot of how we feel but yeah I just. I can'tsee this being an accent. There's no way not at all too much lines. Oll Oragnal doesn't Lin O Exa, because you guys really really really need tolook up the photo of the shoe on top of the pool of blood 'cause where theblood is there's no way there wouldn't be blood on that shoe. There's no waythat she wasn't placed. There's no way Hi's absolutely because there isliterally blood like under the shoe it's otlike. The shoe was adjacent tothe pull of blood there as blood under the shoe bright red blood, but no bloodon on the shoe, which is just like justtoo many little things in this case, do not make any sense. So I I know thatthere are Gofun MES and change ot or...

...petitions that have been recentlyrevamped and started to assist and help Kenjix family. I will absolutely belinking those I encourage you all to do your own research on this case.Obviously this is a very controversial one, but I just do not see this onebeing an accent. I absolutely see this one as being a murder, no efntely. Iwill also I'm going to go ahead and link the article that I linked in lastweek's episode or earlier this week remember, but in my last episode thatis over a hundred ways that you can donate to the blacklives mattermovement and it hasn't been the headlines as much but its still just asimportant and again that'll take you to placesyou can donate to like community bell funds H to different petitions. You cansign, for I know, there's a goon melink for bond a tailor's family in there Ibelieve, there's a Gopon meeling for Kontric Johnson's family as well. Theonly reason I say I believe is because it is updated almost dately, so thereare different petitions and organizations being added, maybe beingtaken off, but please chack at out. Please donate where you can. Pleasesign petitions when you can, especially because that is absolutely free and itmakes so much more of a difference than I think any of US realize. Thank you.So so much will you are my favorite person to have in the show, I'm notquite about that. I love well love having hem on here. I think hebrings just the right energy. As always, you can find me on instrogram andswetter at lock the door pod. I have a gemal account at lock the door pod atGMO com. If you want to email me tell me about any theories. You have any Csuggestions or you just want to say hi. I always lecome that we have a faceloopage as well. Did you lock the door and yeah? I think? That's it so yeah,please REC Oll to me literally anything. You want to say literally anything tome. I will respond. I promise I amboard at home, we're still quarantining overhere or practicing social distancing and I'm bored. So absolutely pleasereach out. Thank you so so so much for listening. It means the absolute worldand, as always, make sure you lock your doors. I.

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