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Episode 8 · 1 year ago

The Brutal Murder of Annie Le

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Hi and welcome back to did you lock thedoor t the PODCAST, I'm your host Payton reefs, and today we are going tobe discussing the case of a woman named Annie, Marie Lay so without further ado. Let's go aheadand jump right into it. Annie Marilay was born July. Third ofone thousand nine hundred and eighty five making her a cancer. I believe thefirst cancer that we've discussed on this show she was a Vietnamese American born andraised in San Jose California, by her aunt and uncle. She was described asvery bubbly, fun and outgoing and from a very young age. She knew that whenshe grew up she wanted to be a doctor of some sort. It was always her dreamto spend her life healing the sick. She would graduate from Union Mine HighSchool as the valid ICTORIAN, and on top of that she was voted most likelyto be the next Einstein by her senior class. So I think it's safe to say thatshe was kind of a genius. She would earn a pretty substantialamount of money in scholarships, actually a hundred and sixtyousanddollars, and she would use that to attend the University of Rochester inNew York, while there she would major in celldevelopmental biology and minor and medical anthropology, so again, a verysmart girl. While she was in college here, she would meet her soon to befiance. Actually, a man named Jonathan Wudowski, the two dated for what I believe is ashort period of time and quickly got...

...engaged after graduating from the University ofRochester. She went on to pursue a doctorate in pharmacology at YaleUniversity and while there she would participatein research aimed at treating certain forms of cancers and diabetes. Her Fiance Jonathan would attendColumbia University where he would pursue a doctorate in both physitsphysics and mathematics and wile. This might seem like kind of a detriment totheir relationship. The two were actually only a ninety minute trainride from each other and they would skipe and or talk on the phone almostevery day, one of their favorite things to do as a couple when they had tospend time. Apart was Kype and watch baseball games together they were bothvery big baseball fans in February of two thousand and eight,while at Yale, Annye would publish an article for a student run magazine,titled Quotes Crime and Safety in new haven, and in that article she woulddiscuss how students could protect themselves from getting robbed in andaround the campus area and her publishing an article on student safetymight be a bit ironic. Once we get more into the case, we'll see, Annie would spend a lot of her time inthe school labs. As I mentioned, she was doing research pertaining to cancerand diabetes, and in these labs she would work with animals mostly rats,and that was what she would be doing the morning of September. Eighth, twothousand and nine when she would arrive at the SterlingHall of Medicine on campus, leave her belongings and then walk the remainingthree blocks to ten amasted street. To begin working in the campus labs on one forum, I actually did see thatshe received a text from a lab technician named Raymond Clark thatasked her to come in a little early to discuss lab cleanliness because he feltthat she was not keeping the animal cages as clean as they should be cuts.But I only saw this on one forum and it...

...was on redit all the other articlesthat I saw stated that she was solely there to get some work done in the lab.So I'm not sure if that's a hundred percent, true or not so annie can be seen on surveillance,video, answering the building and then swiping her card to gain entry into oneof the lab rooms, ind every different room in this lab or in this building.You have to use your card to swipe in every time, so there was a record ofeach in every room that Annie entered along with everyone else. So afterentering this one room that she is caught on surveillance going into soafter entering this lab that she can be seen on surveillance, video walkinginto Annie's card will actually never be swiped again and someone that we discussd a coupleminutes ago, labteck Ramond Clark can be seen entering the same lab shortlyafter Annie does. He will then enter rooms all over the building sliping hiscar, a total of eleven times that day, something that he did not normally dorecords would show that his card would normally only get swiped one to twotimes per shift that he worked so going up to eleven was a lot more than henormally. Would the last store that Raymond Clark wipedinto was the basement area where he would spend about an hour and there'sno security footage in that area. So we don't have a record of what exactly itwas. He was doing during that time. Annie will be absent from her tenthirty am class as her an email that her professor doctor Bennett, sent tothe Dein of pharmacology, and she would not reach out to any friends or familyfor the rest of the day, which was very abnormal for her. She likes to keep intouch fairly consistently with both her friends, family and especially herfiance Jonathan after Annie didn't return home that night, her roommatecalled around to see if any of their friends had heard from her and aftergetting nose from almost everyone. She...

...eventually called Jonathan when he saidthat he hadn't spoken to her since a am that morning. She knew it was time tocall the police. Maybe she would go without talking to some of her friendsthat she would never go that long without talking to Jonathan. So herroommate called the police that arround nine pm the night of September eighth,the very night she disappeared and reported her missing to the police. TheYale student body would receive an email on September tent. So that'sactually two days later, alerting them to the fact that Annila was missing.I've mentioned that Annie had a fiance and she was actually set to be marriedand just a couple of days on September thirteenth, which would lead the policeto believe that she had gotten cold feet or become overwhelmed with herupcoming marriage, coupled with her incredibly difficult and demandingcoursework and had just chosen to like take a weekend away and send some timefor herself. However, they would soon discover evidence in the building thatwould very much debunk this seory when police spoke to employees and studentsthat had been in the lab on September. Eighth, the day that Annie had gonemissing. Raymond's Clark was quick to tell them that he had been working inthe same room as her, but had seen her leave the lab stafe and sound aroundnoon, and actually, when police entered the lab to speak to him, they caughtRaymond scrubbing a floor drain. Despite the fact that it appeared to beclean, he was really going at it. Apparently, on top of that, they wouldfind blood spatter in the lab. That Annie was last known to be working in,and a stock glove and boots with the name Ray c written on them and a lapshirt that was covered in blood. All of these items would be found in astealing tile above the basement area, which remember that was the last placethat Raymond swiped into the morning of September eight and where he spent asignificant amount of time. They would also find hair that theybelieved to belong to Annie and a...

...bloody lab coat stuffd IMTO, therecycling Ben. They would send all of this off for DNA testing, so sock, glove and lab Cote alonearen't too much to point everything at RaymondClark, but I think the boots with racy being found with the majority of thestuff he didn't cover his tracks very well. Thank goodness. So further examination of securityfootage would show that Raymon Clark had changed his clothes before exitingthe lab. They also showed that Annie was never seen exiting the lab at all,so she went in it caught her entering a couple rooms, but no record of herleaving on September thirteenth of two thousand nine. The day that Annieshould have been walking down. The aisle police would find a body seftedinside a cable chase inside the wall of the basement. The area that she wasstuffed into was actually too small for her body, so her bones had almost allof them had to be broken and cracked in order to make her fit, leading to avery gruesome and bloody scene and from what I could find her body was so so distorted when theyfound it. She didn't even look human anymore. It was like something out of ahorror movie, this poor girl. I cannot even fathom that an autopsy would show that she had beenstrangled to death and she had premortem wounbs thatincluded both a broken jaw and a broken collar bone. Her underwear had been pulled downaround her ankles and there was seaman found in it suggesting a sexualcomponent to the crime. However, there was no evidence of a physical sexualassault. DNA results would reveal that the hairfounds did indeed belong to Annie and the blood found on the clothing items,matched both Annie and Raymond Clark, with it being fairly obvious at thispoint who committed the murder, I want...

...to give just a little bit of backgroundon Clark when they talked to some of his oldschool friends and college beddies. They all said that he was seemingly anormal dude. He didn't give off any creepy vibes or anything. Interestinglyenough in College Clark was part of the Asianappreciation society which, if you'll remember, Annie, was of VietnameseAmerican. So when we get into motive later, maybe this might help explain ita little bit and he also had a fiance at the time. So he was from what Icould find in a happy relationship. There wasn't anything going super wrongin his life that might have caused him to snap and do something like this, butI think the fact that he has a fiance especially was interesting to me,because I know it's definitely not a one hundred percent of the timeoccurrence, but a lot of times when we hear cases like this, it's some kind ofloaner couldn't get a girlfriend, doesn't have a girlfriend and justreally acts out because of that. But that was definitely not the case forRaymond Clark, so he had actually moved into a motel prior to his arrest due toreporters continuously taking out his apartment. However, on Septemberseventeenth of two thousand and nine he was arrested from this motel withoutincident. He would initially plead not guilty.However, during a pretrial hearing on February ninth and two thousand andeleven he changed Thi plea to guilty. He would also enter an Alfred plea inregards to attempted sexual assaults. I'm sure all of us, true crime fanatics,know, but just in case you don't and Alfred plea is not admitting guilt, butadmitting that the state has enough evidence to find you guilty. So you aregoing to concede to that evidence due to the fact that he plaid guilty,he was actually not required to provide an explanation for what happens, norhas he ever offered one.

The sentence that he received was aminimum of forty four years in prison, so he is scheduled for release onSeptember, sixteenth of two thousand and fifty three when he will be sixtyeight years old, which, honestly in this day and age, is not that old. Ihope he doesn't get out in forty four years at the minimum, because I thinkespecially, I h not offering any motive. That's just that's one of the things that scares methe most about this case. I think he could easily get out and at sixty eightI'm sure he'd still have the FYSICAL capacity to be able to harm someoneelse. So I that makes me uncomfortable. I wish hehad just been given straight life, but I don't know he did give a statement after receivinghis sentence, he stated quote: I take fullresponsibility for my actions. I alone am responsible for the death of Annie,lay and causing tremendous pain to all who loved and cared about Annie. I amtruly sorry. I took Annie away from her friends, her family and most of all,her fiance. I have always tried to do the right thing and stay out of trouble,but I failed. I took a life and continued to lieabout it, while Annie's friends, family and fiance sat and waited. I neverreally wanted to harm anyone or cause emotional pain to anyone. All Heywanted was to be a good son, a good brother and a good fiance. But again Ifailed. I blame only myself and there are noexcuses for what I have done. Annie was and always will be a wonderful personby far a better person than I will ever be in my life. He concluded by saying I'm sorry, Ilied. I'm sorry, I ruind lives and I'm sorry for taking Annie La's life. His father would also read a statementthat expressed his sympathies for the lay family stating that the events ofSeptember two thousand and nine devastated two families and shock tonation. No parent can imagine or...

...prepare for losing their daughter toviolence or to having their son commit such a horrible crime. So I want to just kind of brainstorm a little as to why this crime might have occurred.This is seemingly so random from what I can gather. Clark had seen Anni in the lab before, obviously because he workedthere every day and she was often in there and reportedly about three weeksbefore the murder. He did start like any time Annie was using. The Lab Clarkwould be working in the lab where she was and at one point he had reprimandedher for how she kept the animal cages. He didn't think that she was keepingthem up to par. However, that just doesn't seem like a good enough motive for me tojust snap and murder, someone so brutally, especially since, after he told Anniethat she needed to do better, she apologized profusely and from what Ican find. She was keeping the cages cleaner and up to his standards, but Ithink the fact that he was spending more and more time around her and thefact that there was a sexual component to the crime definitely points towardhim, just being infatuated, whoever we talked about him being a part of theAsian appreciation society which in any other case, would be totallynormal. But I think, in this case does also point to him just becomingobsessed in a very short period of time. Like Yiu said only three weeks and Ithink on the morning of September eighth, hejust knew that he and Annie were alone inthere and it was his opportunity to strike. Thankfully he was horrible at hiding evidence. He leftblood, statter and hair and, of course,...

...even that drain that they were cleaning.They were able to tell that there had been blood in it, and I mean the cops found. All the editevidence he had hit in the walls very quickly is, of course they did that's, but yeah this case. This is a prettystraightforward one. It's one that I've been wanting to cover just because I mean there really is no motive here.Why did he do hat? He did I just dated that. I think it was because he'sbecome obsessed with her, but unless he decides to tell us well truly, neverknow, and also it's just so creepy, because a school laboratory and anyplace on campus really is somewhere. You generally expect that you'll besafe. That harm won't come to you because thereare other students,teachers, employees around and there are- I mean security cameraseverywhere. Those always tend to make me feel a little bit better and yeah. Ijust since I heard about this. I've takenextra precaution everywhere that I am on campus, which is something that Inever really thought I had to do before. I mean obviously as a true crime fan,I'm taking expercausions in my everyday life all the time, but something about her being killed insuch a public space in the space that you are supposed to be safe, reallyresonated with me and freaked me out, and I thought it was a story that wasvery much worth telling. Just because this case is solved doesn't mean thatAnni Lay's story does not deserve to be heard. So I want to thank you guys somuch as always for listening. If you enjoyed this, please give it a fivestar rating on Itunes or wherever you're listening that helps so muchit'll help more people hear about and listen to this podcast. You can alsofollow me at lock the door pod on instagram and twitter and email me. AnEK suggestions at lock, thedoor pod at gmailcom...

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