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Episode 1 · 1 year ago

The Murder of Lindsay Buziak

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Hello and welcome to did you lock thedoor podcast, I'm your host, Painton Reece and with me today I have one ofmy best friends, the Fera hello people of the world, I'm visiting from NewYork, okay. So today, for my first episodevery exciting, we have the craziest case that I know of, and Ilook at a lot of Tru crime and wow. This is a freaking roller coaster, sotoday we're talking about the murder of Lindsay Booziac and I actually gotinspired to cover this case by crime junkie. I'm sure a lot of you listeneto them, and they just did this one and I love crime. Junki really do but to meit just felt like in this case they l left out a lot of details that I thinkare significant and so once I just look them up again after listening to thatepisode, I was like Wow. I need to cover this. This is insane I'm soobsessed with this case and I'm so excited to get into it with you all so,without further ado talk about Lindy, Bouziac so and feel free to Chim Min Wheneveryeyeah. I've never heard. I am actually no idea. I have no idea about this case.Coming into this, I listen to a lot of true crime as well.I'm a fan of crime junkie and just like true crime in general. I think something that really put me off. Iguess on the map for true crime was buzsfeed unsolved. Oh yes, they're, very good and interesting andfunny keep it light hearted. So I'm a big fan of Tru crime as wellas feel like modern day. A lot of people are very interested in truecrime, so this is just you know a fun and kind of dark, but I opening wave to kind of hop on sothis is going to be fun that kind of explore in the way that the two of ushave with this with this case and my very little bit of knowledge, so soLindsaey BUSIAC was born on November. Second, one thousand nine hundred andeighty three to her parents, Evelyn and Jeff Bousiac Somacer sad November. Second, no she's, a Scorpion,Corpia Picy, so Lindsey was described as very popr.Popular bubbly could light up a room. All of her friends seemed to love herhad nothing but positive things to say about her, but we are going to kind of give you a little bit of backgroundinformation but then really get into the players and the situations weny hadfound herself in right before she was murdered. So, Oh, a lot of ourinformation for this case came from a youtuber named Shaunarey. She does apretty incredible, very indepth, video andto this case and she covers a lot ofthe keypoints that I think are important. So I just wanted to give hera major props to that. We also used Jeff busiacs website who killed Ozusiacand some other sources, but, like I said I just wanted to give big creditto Shanna. So, where we're going to start with our story was Lindsay hadspent five years in a relationship with a man named Matt and she described thisrelationship. As I don't know, if any of you have ever seen the show sex inthe city, but mat was her, Mr big, that's what she liked to prefer to haveyeah. I didn't get the reference, but I guess it has to be a good thing, as so yeah. I feel like whenever I've heardabout the show it's not a good Mr Bigom, but sounds like sugar daddy to honestly,but apparently they had a very passionate. Some people even describedit as a once in a lifetime type of relationship. But apparently, along with that passion,came a lot of fighting and arguing, and some really explosive stuff like that.So eventually, Lindseay and Matt. Both came to the realization that maybe therelationship was not the best thing for them. There was said to be no animosityor anything though they both knew that they neede to exit this relationship,and they both continue to care about one another after the relationshipended amicable, amicable. So so shortly after this breakup Lindsaystarted a real estate course and met a man named Ryan Zelo, who was quicklyquite enticed by her. He would always be inviting her places asking her outbuying her food or something and just...

...always went out of her way to be in herpresent, and he was so infatuated in fact thathe introduced hers to his mom Shirley Zalo, who worked at remax and is a bitof a real estate tycoon. I think you could say: Shirley was pretty quickly alsoenchanted with Lindsay and she offered her a job and Lindsey was quickly hiredon to remaks, where she worked with Shirley Ryan. Had An older brother named Jason,who was also involved in the real estate business. He was a real estate broker. I believe no, hewas a mortgage broker and as soon as he met Lindsay along with his two otherfamily members, he was quickly quite intrigued. He asked her out on a coupledates. She said yes and soon after that they started a relationship together after just a few months of datingShirley. Zelo would buy Jason and Lindsay a one point: three milliondollar home in Shannig, an lake which is about thirty miles away from wherethey had both previously lived in Victoria, and on top of the one pointthree million dollars she spent on the house for them. She also sent twohundred and fifty housand dollars on renovations, which is incredibly generous. Don't get mewrong, but after just a couple months of dating that's a yeah, it's I find ita lot because you don't even know what thatUd, what kind of like relationship you're entering andyou don't really know each other, and also I don't know if we, this is aCanadian Bas, murder. So Yeah in O say that I Ino to me: I can the nature ofwhere you're living the culture, where you're living really helpd, you define which stranges- andthis is at's Canadians I mean sorry but like like this- is just odd. Like Idon't know, I truthfully don't know the kind of value of money that they kindof have over there or the way that they value kind of a relationship going intoit. Did I mean they were so pretty young? She was still young, so it'skind of awe that the mother would go ahead and buy such a expensive. Imean it's not like they put any money into that. This ladywent ahead and decided. Oh, let me get this house for my son and his currentgirlfriend. So I think that's definitely a heavy load o place on yeahthat two people. So that's a lot of pressure. I think to put on Lindsay,because again this is a very new relationship and now your boyfriend'smom, I mean she was wealthy, but still a one point: three million dollar homeafter just a couple months of dating I mean I'm sure the home was beautifuland she was grateful. That is just again very generous, but very odd. Inmy opinions. So soon after moving in together,Lindsey began to feel that Jason and Shirley had be started to become moreand more controlling over her and demanding of her, and it was even saidby Lindsay's father and some of her closest friends that at this time,Lindsay was thinking seriously about leaving Jason. However, he was able toconvince her to stay. It was said, though, that she, on top of feelingthat she was being more and more controlled by Jason. She had beenmissing her friends who were back in Victoria. It was only thirty miles away,but I mean it's not easy to make that drive every day, especially when youlived in the same city. Co See each other a lot more. So that wasn't thatthat was another thing I was weighing heavily on Lindsay, so Jason Actuallyarranged for the two to move into a condo back in Victoria and,interestingly enough, this condo was owned by Jason's brother Ryan. ZaloRyan actually kicked out the tenant that was currently living there, sothat Jason and Lindsay could move in and Shirley invested an additionalseventy thousand dollars in renovations into this house. A very generous woman, yeah, that's a a lot evil. I just don'tunderstand the I guess. Maybe these people are used tol living lavishreally there. For me this. The research that Ihave is very, like I said, sparse, but it seems that these people are verycomfortable. So I guess the mother just wanted them to feel comfortable withall this money going Ito the houses that they decide to move in even back going back home, you knowjust to make them feel comfortable. Her son, you know, live up to the standardsthat he's used to living and Jason and Shirley seem to have a very, very closerelationship. So it doesn't surprise me...

...necessarily that if she has the meansshe's going to buy him anything, so we are going to jump ahead a littlehere to January thirty, first of two thousand and eight Lindsay will receivea call that all young, real estate agents would want to receive. A womancalled her saying that her husband had been transferred from Vancouver toVictoria and they were looking for a three bed, three bathroom home withliving space that could also allow for a livein nanny, and the kind of Cherryon top here was that their budget was around one million dollars, which wouldspell out a big commission for Lindsay. So the couple seed it that they wouldbe visiting Victoria the upcoming weekend for three days and they wantedto buy within the time that they would be there. However, something aside from despitethe fact of this call, it would be a dream for any young real estate agentto get something was making Lindsay, feel kind of uneasy, because for oneshe really had never had a sal this big before or really mini sales at all. Sowhy would these people call her directly and to the woman seem to bespeaking with an odd accent, Lindsay even speculatedat some point that she was trying to fake an accent or disguise her realvoice? It kind of sounded like someone like they were trying to imitate aSpanish accent, but she could never really be sure place her finger on it. So being the cautious woman that she wasLindsey did ask the woman how she had found her and was told that she hadbeen recommended by a previous client. This previous client's name andinformation has never been released, so we don't know who they are, but whenLindsey did try to reach out to the former client, she was told that theywere out of town and would not be able to get back into contact with herbefore the weekend viewing. So it took linsy a while she had to do a lot ofsearching, but she eventually found a suitable home at seventeen ou twodissus a place in the Subbrou in the suburb of Sandmich that are retailedfor n nine hundred and sixty four thouzand dollars. So she immediately called the coupleand they set up the viewing and, as Lindsay, was telling herfriends and family about it. She was excited, but she also told him that shewas nervous again something about this woman's accent, just kind of made herfeel uncomfortable, and she was still, I think, a little on edge about thefact that they had called someone so young and en experience directly. Thatjust didn't really happen to a lot of people. So there are a couple differentversions of what comes next, so Lindsey did discusswith Jason Him, showing up to the viewing and being there with her. Butthere are two different versions: one states that Lindsay Wanted Jason to bethere to kind of just be with her the whole time and protect her because, like we said she was nervous and othersstate that Lindsay asked Jason to drop off some paperwork that she would needand when he was doing that, he would be able to just check in and make sureeverything is okay. And with what happens later in the story,it will be very significant whether or like which version is true, because one will make him look quite guilty one,not so much and in like Tryin to figure like theinexperience that she had a d just her nervousness pretty much. She calld herdad and he just kind of advised her not togo alone, because she felt nervous about what was going on. She just feltsomething was not right about the phone call. She got. You know it's like it s,just a good feeling, and she honestly she should have stuff with her got fe,because this just did not turn out to be a very successful deal. Jack andshe's new Sonong was wrong with the phone call. She wasn't in a high enoughplace to be receiving like a million dollar Agn, I'm not agent, all a milliondollar client and when she had asked how they had foundout about her, how how these people knew her. It was an accurate client,but exactly like Patton said client was out of town, so she did not want to letthe opportunity pass. Her by regardless of how she felt about it or not, thenyou know she called her dad and he advised her not to go alone which ledher to talk to her boyfriend. And then there are the two versions there on what happens when the viewinghappens. So now we're going to jump to the dayof the murder, which would be February second, two thousand and eight, andthis is really soon after Lindseay received. That call remember that wasJanuary, thirty, first, so just a couple of days so prior to the viewing. I'm not sure ifthis was February second or if it was...

...the first or when, but Lindsay didreceive a call from the husband of the couple that she would be showing thehouse to, and he did tell her that his wife wasn't feeling okay and that shewould not be making it to the viewing. So and now that I say that I'm going toassume it was the same day because I feel like. Maybe it was that same daybecause it offput her as another thing that was like well this this Soutin.This didn't sound right in the first place. So now, all of a sudden, thelady who called me is not available to see the House thatshe so desperately wanted to see. It's like a it does make sense, andobviously, as a young woman now that she's just going to be meeting thestrange man she doesn't know, that would definitely make me feel nervousas well so Jason and Lindsay on the day of what would come to be. Her murder wentto a restaurant called sauce for lunch. They paid the bill and left at aroundfour thirty PM and Lindsey went home to change clothes and Jason Wents to Ibelieve, take care of some car trouble at a place called Sh, so lindsay willarrive to the House on time. Records show that she opened the house'sLockbox at five twenty nine PM, and I don't want to say several. Ibelieve there are two or three eye witnesses that do place a couplewalking up to meet Lindsay at the house. Again they arrive on foot not byvehicle, which is kind of odd, like where do they come from? So witness descriptions say that theman was Caucasian around six feet tall with a medium build that he had dark,hair and was very well dressed end about the woman. They would say thatshe also appeared Caucasian around thirty five to forty with short cropped,blond, hair and she was wearing a very distinctive dress. The dress was red, pink black, pink and whites, and it was likea very distinctive wavy pattern. Going along the entirety of the dress, I willtry to post pictured Instagram, I'm sure I'll be able to it's very easy tofind so right after witnesses see Lindsay introducing herself to thecouple they go inside the house, presumably to start the viewing around five thirty Jason Texlindsaysaying that he'll be there in ten to fifteen minutes. The last text Lindseywill ever send is to Jason, and it says: Okay I'll see you in a bit got to go.The Mexicans are here, so we're gonna just unpack that, because the the thingis that she made it a you know. She thought that the accentthat the lady was speaking with was like a fik Spanish accent. Again, Idon't know Canadian culture or like the exposure of like how many like what the Hispanic population is inCanada, and this is apparently a very smalltown Victoria. Everybody kind of knows everybody, so I really don't know thenature of how people are living over there, butthe fact that she, the fact that she called them theMexicans- I just I have no word- that's I find itabsolutely hilarious and and asslike as dead and horribly dead as she is. Ijust the Mexicans I got to go. The Mexicans are here like is such ageneral ize. I can't it's hilarious. I know she had them saved in her phoneunder the Mexican. She literally the contact name was the Mexicans as Shadinas the phone call was I'm never going to be. I'm not going to be over thatit's I find it absolutely hilarious yeah. I feel like no one ever stops to just reflect on that Yeah Yeu, like thePeople Findin, the murder so brutal, but so the Mexicans- it's just to it's toofunny not to address that. I, on Packit, like Sheven, sent in like a message, aful on record text, mestes right before she died. I have to go. The Mexicansare here like it's too much, you know so I'm on that note. Oh I'm not sure. If you mentioned this,but Jason had asked a coworker of his named Coen to join him for dinner. Thatevening, which Cohen had reported to be sort of odd him and Jason werecoworkers like I said, but they definitely were not friends. Coenactually didn't really want to go to dinner. That night. He just wanted togo home and relax, but apparently Jason asked repeatedly and sort of begged himto go and eventually Coen agreed and when they get into the car Jason TellsCoen that they have to go check on Lindsay First, and I think it's a bitimportant to note that this had not been mentioned to co and prior to himagreeing to go to dinner. He assumed that they would just be going to dinnernothing else, but anyway, on the way to...

...the house. Jason Calls his brother Ryanfor directions, which is a bit odd. Like why did younot know where you were going like? I don't it just says I could just findfour directions, so I'm not sure if he didn't even have the address at all orif he had that address and just couldn't figure out how to get there.That's a little weird. It sounds unprepared to me. Yeah, like your. You know why your girlfriend asked youto go to that that house theyd she askd because she's uncomfortable. So thefact that you don't know what the addresses it's Odt. It's weird situation thatshe's in so yeah and, like I mentioned earlier, we don't know if Jason wasthere to just drop off paperwork and check in or if Lindsy had wanted him tobe with her throughout the entire ordeal. But this isn't one of thethings that I feel points towards Jason, possibly being a guilty party like Isaid I just think it's very odd. So when Jason drives past the house, heapparently sees the couple in the doorway seeming to step out, but thenthey reenter the home and close the door. So he assumes this is the couplejust now entering the home to start the viewing so jason will park on the opposite sideof the street facing away from the House. He still has a bit of a view ofthe house in his rear room err. Weir View Mirror, but not much and at five. Fifty five PM Jason willleave the Coldasack area and park on the side of the house, and since thereis a fence on the side of the house, he now has no view of the house whatsoever.Just of the fence. Jason will text Lindsaey after a coupleof minutes? Are you okay and she never answers? And after sitting for abouttwenty minutes, Jason and Coen approach the house to find the door locks andthey can see lindsaey shoes through the glass, which is not that odd fromeverything we've looked at. Apparently that was something retailers that areshowing a house will do sometimes so that wasn't immediately alarming, butfinding the door locked and knowing Lindsaey was not answering her phonefor over twenty minutes. At this point, Jason did seem to go right into a panic. There was a key pad that would allow Jason toenter the House with a code, so he called Shirley his mom to try and getthe code of the house, but she was not able to retrieve it for him. So finally,Jason Boosted Coin Up, so he could enter the house over the gate and heentered through the back patio doors, which were both reported to be open,unlock the front door and let Jason Inside and upon being let inside Jason,apparently yelled Lindsay Lindsay and then ran directly up the stairs intothe master bedroom. where he immediately found Lindsay's body. He tried to give her CPR, but to noavail. It was too late and Lindsey was dead. So I wasn't able to find exactly how many times wincy had beenstabbed, but through my research, I from different sources, have found thatit was anywhere from ten to forty times and that there was possible breastmutilation involved, and I think that the amount of stabums is really important here, because even tenis a lot. But forty like that is so personal yeah youtate, some long. Theone source that I listend to before the during e doing the research, the onesource that I did listen to it SA forty like I said Ihave no prior knowledge in this case, except for the one source it was justso I cannot neem myself a reliable. You know researcher, but that is the information that I heard isa forty times, and I find the reference that the Youtuber that we listen to made was like tap yourself on the legs.Forty Times like you can only imagine like stabbing somebody for Ou. Thatsounds in sane, like I didn't even think about it. That way like do that,like tap yourself forty times purposefully like otap yourself, FortyTimes like ama like you're, stabbing sombody, that's a that's horrific! IT'ST's horrible! At that point, like you stop somebody wants and you Coan KillThem and you're having somebody forty times there. It's that's insane likethey're dead, after maybe the first three times, and you just continue togo with it. Haes somebody did that to somebody it's insane. I listend to true crime garagesepisodes on this case and they do a very good job of presenting theinformation. So I would definitely recommend that they do mention at onepoint that they have a source who was able to look at the autopsy report.That said, it was closer to ten to fifteen times that she was stabbed. I'mdefinitely not saying that their information is inaccurate, but Iobviously have not seen that oftop a...

...tops report. I have no idea howaccurate that information is, but again from the sources that I've looked atit's anywhere from ten to forty and the possible breast mutilation. I think isinteresting because we again aren't sure if that happened, but Lindsay hadrecently had abreast enlargement. So I think thatpoints all the more to a personal crime. If there was breast mutilation because WHO's gonna ow that Informe yeah,that's true too, like know ha no, unless it's that obvious, but Icouldn't I wouldn't know I really I wouldn't know any of that. So there was no no evidence of sexualassault and neither Lindsey's wallet nor her jewelry were touched or taken.So robbery and sexual assault were ruled out as the motives, and it was a brand new house. There'snothing in there really to take so it's clear that they were. It was apurposeful marder. It was so we mentioned eye witnesses earlierthey were able to get a sketch of the side of the woman's face. That was seenentering the House with Lindsay and her supposed husband again. I will try topost that on instagram. For you all, but to be honest, it's a very genericsketch. I don't think that it would help much y Tilariouslo Yeah Hav,that much to say it is it's not the greatest okay, so upon searching the house,tracker dogs were brought in and they could not pick up much of a sen whichleads the police to believe that the perpetrators exited the house and thenquickly entered a vehicle that allowed them to make their escape. The fencethat I previously mentioned that Jason had parked by, and that was behind theHouse had three boards kicked out of it andI'm not sure if that is assumed to have been kicked out by the murderers. Butwe do know that three fence boards were missing and it is believed that, afterexiting the house, that is the way that they escape. So we're going to jumpback in time a little bit here. So moving back to November of two thousandand seven, which was the year before Lindsey, would be murdered. A burner phone was placed and thisburner phone was actually proved to be the one that the woman had use to callLindsay. Only six phone calls were made from this phone, all of them to Lindsay.It was never used before her murder never used after or aveyons used, beforher murder, but only to call her and the phone was registered to what policebelieved to be a bogus name, which was Paulo Radrigez, and it was alsoregistered to a bogus address, which was tracked down to just a randombusiness in Vancouver, had nothing to do with the case so polise say andshortly after Lindsey's murder. So remember, Lindsey was a little bitsketched out by the phone call, because she believed that the woman might befaking an accent or that something about her voice was just off. So a fellow real estate agent namedJasmine Parsons, would receive a call from a woman with a strange accent.This woman had a real estate proposition for her, but in the middleof the call, she quickly changed her mind and Jasmine, never heard from heragain and this lady was exgirlfriend of current of Jason Sale,exact, her boyfriends, so yeah Jasmine Parsons was his ex girlfriend, which Jason is starting to look a bitsuspicious to me just a bit. So the police would first set theirsites on Lindsay's exboyfriend Matt. It was found that he had a solid alibi. Hewas with his new girlfriend and her family the day of Lindy's murder, andhe also really had no motive like I said him and Lindsay were on good terms.They still cared about each other. There was one person, though, that didoffer up mat as a suspect and point towards his guilt. Tnone other than Shirley Zelo told thepolice that the day before Lindsey's murder, she had taken a walk withLindsay and which Lindsey told her that she was afraid of Mat, and this wasdisputed by all of Linddey's, friends and family. All of them said she stillcared deeply for Matt and did not feel an ounce of fear towards him. So, acouple days after the murder, Jason would run through a reannactment ofwhat happened when the body was found. You can find that on Youtube. If youwant it's super easy after mat was clear, the police didpoint their investigation towards Jason. Jason would tell them that he andLindsay had a great relationship and would likely have a future together.However, friends and family had a different story, like we said, Lindsayhad apparently been telling her friends and family that Jason was contrling andthat she was seriously thinking about...

...leaving him also Lindsay on a trip intoon a trip to Calgary to visit. Her father apparently told him that she hadseen something that she was not supposed to, but she did not yet feelcomfortable telling him what that was, and also on the same trip visiting herfather Lindsaey, reached out to an old friend named Ericson Dell Alkazar, whowill become very important later on in this episode. So in December of twothousand and seven, which was a couple months before Lindsey, wasmurdered, Lindsay and her best friend Nicki went out for the night and whenthey returned, they began to talk, and it eventually turned into a discussionabout the trials and turmoils of her relationship with Jason. The two hadthis conversation the whole time, believing that Jason was asleep, but infact he was not. Jason would apparently blow up andreally freak out about the contents of their conversation, and this wouldeventually cause Nikki to run from the apartment, with Lindsay following afterher, despite knowing what Lindsey was doing, Jason would call her thirtytimes and after he could not reach Lindsaey, he called his mom shirly. Wehave no idea what he said to her during this phone call. Christmas came shortlyafter this incident, and Jason reportedly bought Lindsay severalextensive gifts and then escorted her off to a ski trip with his family. During this trip, it is said that JasonWarms back up to her that Lindsey warms back up to her relationship with Jason,in that the two seemed to be on better terms. However, now we're going back to afterLindsey's murder. Her friend Nicki would also receive a phone call from awoman with a strange accent. Nick, he didn't realize what was going on atfirst and by the time she did. The woman had hung up, but after repeatingrepeatedly calling the phone back, she would eventually get an answer fromShirley Zelo and talk about damning evidence. In myopinion, that is that Razy I find that very odd. I knew by the Second PontColu. It just sounds like the mom. It just sounds like the mom is doing theselike, as you cal, frake an accent you can not. That was me good Butyeh,Bu people, coan fake an accent and the friend did question the MOM on. Why did you call me? Why do youhave my number and she gave kind of a bogus answer like al? My secretary'sname is Nicki like how garbage of a like you know answer. Is that back likewhat like? How did you get? My number, though, and apparently Shirley had said that her son Jasonmight have put in Nicky Lindsey's friends. Contact intoher phone and mistakenly have called the wrong number of the wrong Nicki,but I just find that very hard to believe, because why would you have?Why would you have your sons, girlfriends best friends, numberin your phone and named Nicki like that? Doesn't make anysense it just that that an most sounds very odd and also, why would you becalling your secretary and talking in a strange accent like Tak ot yeah? Ifthat might it's the same number? How often are you calling the same numberback in a different persons is picking on it's not that. Does that's notpossible really. Bu Shirley denies this story completely saying that again shemust have gotten the number from Jason. But again, that's so weird. I don'tbelieve you so the police have officially clearedShirley Jason, an Ryan as suspects. The family is not considered to have been apart of this murder. So far as the police are concerned again, we obviously don't have anyinformation that the police do not have. We cannot confirm any of what we'resaying is true. We just definitely have our suspicion exactly as far asanything is concerned. Hi is all hear say really, if we're being completelyhonest of it's all information taken from information pass from information.Here's of this here's that, but there are certain facts that are just kind ofundeniable when it comes to majority of true crime cases, justbecause medias entitled and the public is entitled to hear about thingshappening in their community and you know with the Internet. I'msaying these days is: If the ear it hasn't existed for like twentysomething years now, but the internets reach. I guess because F, this is aCanadian murder, but why? Why would anybody in America care about aCanadian murder? It's wise because of the lack of I guess, representation that it mightbe getting, because...

...this is unsolved, AP ten years, whichwas in two thousand and eighteen at this point- was killed in two thousandand eight and aety o exactly and February. Second, it's nearly we'relike halfway through January two thousand and twenty it's nearly beentwelve years since this murder and it it's still unsolved. There are nopeople of interest or suspects for this murder. As of the family being cleared,the police might have persons of interests or suspects that, obviouslythey aren't releasing to the public. But as far as we know and all thesources that I've looked through, there are no clearly named suspects as of right now,but we are now going to go into another major event. That happened around thesame time that mayor may not have played into what happened to LindsayBOUZIAC. So remember that name, Erican Delalkazar that I mentioned earlierwell on January. Twenty second of two thousand and eight. So only ten days before Lindsay would getmurdered in an operation called high noon. Him a his and his brother's drugtrafking ring would be busted if they would, in total collect ad kilos ofcocaine. Twenty five were collected the first best, forty two, the seconds andon a time later, that I couldn't find thirteen additional kilos so again, ADand total that I cannot even imagine the amount of money that would havelost them. That is insane, and, of course theywere I'm sure him and all of his associateswere beyond pissed like yeah, because they knew it had become publicknowledge at that point, that an informant was involved in this bust. SoI'm sure that the people involved were looking to find out who this informantwas. It was reported that people that were involved in the drug ring weregetting dragged out of their beds in the middle of the nights andinterrogated by people that were higher up. There was a very intense search forthis informent going on, and only a few days later, Lindsay wouldreceive that call from that strange woman and two days after that she wouldfind herself murdered. So we are now going to get a bit intoErics and delalkasars connections to Lindsay and some of his friends andassociates connections to Lindsy, and this is about to get trinny insane so matt, who was Lindsay's exboyfriendhim and his brother were known to have been friends with some people that wereinvolved in drug activities. One of those people was Eric Sandelakazar andhis four brothers who all had long criminal backgrounds involving drugsand other violent crimes and his brother's names were I'm currently looking for his brothersnames on Jeff Busiac, who murdered linss bousiacs website, and thiswebsite is absolutely crazy. Let me tell you he has these people's headshots? Their addresses this is Gy, does not care, I'm not telling him crazy. Ithink he's a very devoted father, but I cannot believe he's brave enough to putpeople's. Like I mean I sound a little morbid, but if you know I get enoughchances to do this podcast a little bit more Iam, a very morbid person. I justfind this whole website hilarious, thit sound. It sounds almo like it doesn'tsound like a joke. Of course, not the a murder is Tis, not a joke, but the waythis man presents an information is in such a joking mat manner like the verymu the cap shit yeas captions of these photos ar like this s, bumb Boyl, likeliterally quote, Om boy, that's tat. My daughter, like you know what I'm sayinglike it just sounds. It sounds ridiculous. Okay. So these fourbrothers were Eric Eric Sondel Alkasar, who we just mentioned. He was Matt'sfriends and the person that Lindsey had reached out to when she visited herfather in Calgary, Emersende, Akasar, aldrikson Del alkasar and JeffersonDela. Gazar and again I would not give that information out here, but ifyou're interested their addresses are on this website, yeah this man, thefull addresses of the people and some pictures of their house- it's truly crazy. I can't say I blamehim, but it's truly crazy. So to other people that were involved. I don't believe thatthey were busted along with the Delalcazar brothers, but that wereinvolved in the same druggring as them Ar Vid Asivedo, which I wasn't able to find how he knewLindsay, I'm guessing it would be...

...through matt or the Delacazar brothers,but apparently Lindsay was not very fond of him and there was another mannamed Ziggy Matherson, who has his own page on Jeff musiacs website, the page astitled Public Enemy Number One, the Lantford Lizard his whole name isZackary Scott Matson, but his nickname is Ziggi, so zity would separately fromthe hinoon drugbust be busted for cocaine and other narcotics at hishouse, of which you can also find the address to on this website. And whatwas interesting about this bust was that the person who owned the Housethat Ziggi was living in was, can you guys, Tho, Shirley, Zaylo and right after thisbust occurred? Shirley would come forward and say that she, nor none ofher family members, new ziggy. She had no idea what was going on in that house.However, pictures would soon surface of both Ryan and Jason with Ziggy. Notonly were they longtime friends, they played on the same hockey team together,which means they saw each other all the time, O a Canadian thing to do whatwhat Tanadian connection there, maybe not former but hockey.Fellow hockey players, is what the word that I'm looking for Phil Hockeyplayers, it's very Canadian as all I have to say and again, the pictures ofJason, Ryan and Diggi together are all on Lindsay Boosiac murdercom and finally, we have a woman namedMichelle Lum, who was also involved in drug activity with both Vidasivido andthe Dela cazar brothers, and not only was Ryan Zalo at MichelleLum's sisters house at the time that Jason called him for directions. WhenJason was on his way to Desusa Street, where Lindsey would bemurdered, but lum is reported to have a fondness for a short blond wig and shelived only a block away from the murder site and again all the dog S, ourbrothers, Vidacivedo Ziggi Madison and Michelle Lam were all involved intrafficking, drugs together and all had whether they were arrested or just lost.A lot of money all had something to lose. When that high noon drugbustoccurred and while it was proven and stated bythe police that Lindsay was not in fact the drug informant with her reachingout to Eric Andelakazar. So soon before that bust happened, I can totally seehow one would assume that she was, or even that it was falsely tipped off to this Sdrugring that she was and some honestly now, I think, we've given a lot of the informationthat we felt was important. So now we're going to get into our thoughtsand theories. There was one mor thing: okay presented. This is a just againtheories and things like that, but the their connections and whether or notthey matter is really up to the people you know listening, but the Vit vig Guy.He had a phone peing every time. Oh y Gat, the the burnerphone, was pining as of thenight of her murder of Lindes martyr. Every time that same day- and I thinkthe day before every time that there was something going on with the phoneit would trace back to Vidsom, which is one of the drug movers. I guess I don'twant to say drunk word he's, probably he probably wasn't her Probabley isn'tbut um. Oh, he probably is, and I have no proof so please assume me, but Idon't think he's a drug lord. I highly doubt it just as far as, like my knowledge ofdrug circles, go they're, just movers, so, which is why it's such a big deal,that they lost so much of their product because they're just moving a product,if you, if you lose your product you're in trouble with more than just yeah thepolice you're in trouble with the people wanting it and the people whogave it to you. So it's a big deal, I'm not going to get into all that. But, mypoint being when that burner phone was making calls, it was a lot a lot of itwas being traced back to this. It has to be that yeah, this man's phone, andthat is information that has been put forward by Jeff Busiac, so the policehave never confirmed that. I don't believe they've ever denied it either,but only the father has come forward with that information that is notofficial or on the record or anything. My thoughts on that feel wrong. I can'tsay whether or not yet this is a guess...

...or no, but I just feel like hisinvolvement with a phone. Doesn't sound right because at one point it tracedall the way back to his own house, which, again this is a town that, likeeverybody kind, knows everybody, so it's definitely possible that theydon't even care where it gets traits back to. But I just feel like it sounds like alittle much. The drug involvement, I feel, is a big deal, though. In thiscase I do feel like she was targeted by the ring that was going on in the town.My thoughts on it are drug movers dealers. They take their job veryseriously, so anybody kind of messing that up and interrupting the flow ofthings they're just going to knock them off and she's just so happy to besomewhat in that in that interruption, but also thefamily. The real estate family that she was involved in might have just had alot of property own like by these drug people, seems like yeah. I thinkthat the connections between the Zelo family and this drug ring are, I don't want to say undeniable but toomuch not to mention and be suspicious of again. Obviously, I have no proofthat any of these people were involved in this murder, but I do agree with thepolice that Lindsaey was targeted by contract killers, that they were hiredto commit this murder against her and that it was probably to make astatement that nitches get stitches, but I think that it is definitely not unlikely thatmay be someone in the Zelo family, possibly Shirley tipped these peopleoff onto Lindsay, maybe knowing that she wasn't the informant, maybethinking she was, my guess would be knowing she wasn't. But the only thingthat is so weird to me about that is that the burner phone was purchased inNovember of the previous year. So that's a solid couple months before themurder. So at that point the drugbust was months away fromhappening. So why would someone purchase the spurnerphone that wouldonly be used to murder Lindsay or to contact lindsy before her murderNovember? All right, I feel like the mother, was the one with the phoneis. My thing I feel like the mother was the one with the phone so to me, I feellike she might have planned, not her murder per se, but making her feel like off it. In a sense,I feel like she got the phone and knew that she was going to get herinvolved in some kind of trouble at the very least like- and it turned intothis- you know what I'm saying like it's an off guest here really, but it seemed that she, I don't want to say, didn't like herbut again like in the source that we werelistening to. She said I try to isolate her from her family and stuff, and I doagree with that. I feel like this lady was trying to take her away from herfamily and friends, and things like that, and it didn't work out the wayshe wanted it to, because she was a vocal lindsay was vocal about the factthat she didn't want to be away from homeand they wound moving her back. They wanted moving her back to Victoria, how she said that the mother wascontrolling and so was the boyfriend. It's all in the nature ofkind of that family. It sounds like, and this is just now okay now. This isa stranger really technically entering into our realm of things, and thesepeople seem to be highly regarded in their field of career. So to have some y this, likenaive, iguass kind of walk into their life. They wanted to to really box her in and control thatwe don't need somebody so inexperienced to come and mess up our empire. I guess I just I feel that Shirley was giving so much money to andbeing so generous to, Lindsay and Jason that, like even the thought of Lindsay breaking her precious son'sheart because again, Shirlean Jason seemed very, very close. Just it ragedShirley and she was not going to let like some random girl come in and spendall this money a lot of her money and then just leave her son high and dryquote. I think that she just could not handle her son's rejection and from the momentthat she was alerted to the fact that Jason and Lindsey were having problems.She might have started to plot...

...something and started turning thewheels in her mind and getting things going and again. She had so many connections, so many differentpeople connected to her. Why would she call Niki using a strangeaccent again, even if she was calling her secretary? I know that's not true,because she was using a fake accest like no there's just two many thingsand again the police have cleared this family. We can't prove any of this.Obviously, but just there are no way, that's a coincidencethat the family is connected to that many people that are so that areinvolved in the high noone, drugbust and so likely involved in Lindsey'smurder. There's no way for me. I guess final thoughts. I guess I could say onit or that it was definitely drug related that to me there's no denyingit like. I said I agree. These people are all connected in a way and when it comes to in knowing that somebody kind of ratitout their operations, it becomes a bigissue for the people involved in their their personal drug ring they're, goingto knock out people who they even might think twice you know, might not even Imean they might not even think twice about. Oh you know we can't. Even we can't allow this slip, though ourfingers we're going to get rid of anybody who we think may even have rided us out. So she said- and Imean she did say like there was something I saw that I was not supposedto see. She didn't tell her dad what it was. She was probably uncomfortable. Hesaying something like that and I do believe she saw something drugrelated, the thing that she was not supposed to O. I do not think it hadanything to do with the family. She had been involved with just the Zelos. Idon't think they did anything illegal as far as career and things like that Wene, maybehousing, drug drug movers. You know what I'm saying, maybe maybe giving andtaking a cut of that drug money. Yeah like Thi, would bea ise like that,might be ther their involvement with it, but otherwise I do not see them doinganything illegal. So I do not feel that the thing that she saw that she was notsupposed to see was had anything to do with the Zalos. Idefinitely think it had to do with drug related, but Yotie Mo called her right.I do think that she called her, but then he has to be involved in a murder,I'm sure she's involved in the murder, like I said, but in the sense of drugrelated activities you know yeah. I said I feel like the only involvementthat this lady had with them was the fact that she was housing housing likeat least that one guy, I might have looked the other way, because he wasgood friends with both her, which is exactly what I'm saying she might begetting money from that involvement. When you, you know you do things tohelp any criminal. There there's conversation involved for the most part.There's there might be a conversation involved so and because exactly herkids knew this guy, their friends with him, whatever whatever she might begetting a decent cut of the money, or at least a small percentage of thatmoney. So that to me, that's why I feel like maybe the connection has been madeand again like she didn't really like thegirl. As far as I can see, you know what I'm saying as far as I can see,meaning she was controlling of her, because who knows what priorrelationships with this guy and her sons and her involvement with the womenthat her sons were involved with more like it might have been just this girlm might have just been linsy that she had treated this way. So who reallyknows you know, the nature of everything involved is very vague yeah.So I think my final thoughts. I definitely think she was targeted by that someone hired Hitmanto take her out, and then it probably did have something to do with that highnoon. Drug Best. We know she wasn't the informant, but I definitely think thatsomeone close to her, possibly in the Zelo family, surely might have falsely accused her of beingthe informant or tips people off to the false notion that she was. This is a horribly tragic case. I sohope that it gets solved sooner rather than later I'll make sure to list mysources wherever I can and please feel free to sweet me or MessagemanInstagram, both at lock the door pod with your thoughts, anything think Imissed or any case dessions or anything like that.Thank you so so much for listening, and I will talk to you next time. Did youlock the door podcast bye.

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