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Episode 10 · 2 years ago

The Strange Disappearance of Asha Kreimer

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Hi and welcome back to did you lock the door? The podcast. I'm your host, Peyton Reese. Thank you so much for tuning in today and before we get into today's case, I just want to talk for just a quick second about what's been going on. I know a lot of podcasts have delved into it and it's been on the news nonstop. So don't worry, I'm definitely not going to talk about it for more than like thirty seconds, but I just want to make sure that all of you are staying safe, saying healthy practicing social distancing. I know life has been so difficult and strange since this quarantine started, but I'm confident that if we all do our part, we will definitely get through this together. But anyway, now to get into today's case. We are going to be discussing the disappearance of a lovely woman named Asha Kramer. This is a case I heard on the thin air podcast. Actually, that's not where I heard of it. So I am in a bunch of different true crime discussion groups on facebook for all my favorite podcasts, like true crime, garage, trace evidence, crime, junkie the first degree, you name it, but I heard about this one. I believe it was on true crime garage's facebook page. Might have been trace evidence, but I'm pretty sure it was true crime garage. When someone posted the weirdest missing purses, Kate, missing persons cases or murder cases that you've ever heard of that you really want solved, this is one of them. So of course I clicked the link that they attached, and this one is very interesting. It's not the weirdest one I've ever heard, for sure. I actually have a pretty firm belief as to what happened. I think it it's a little obvious that it's one of two things, in my opinion, but it's definitely very interesting and the story definitely needs to be told. So today we are going to be discussing the disappearance of Asha Cramer. So Asha was born on May two, one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine, making her a Tauris. I'm not super good about remembering Zodiac signs just by hearing a date, so I was really excited when I saw may second because I thought she might be a Gemini, which is my sign. But no, a little too earlier for that. She's a turist. She was born in Australia to her mother, named Genie Kramer. Her father died when she was very young, so there's not much information about him out there. He will come up a little bit in this podcast, but his actual involvement in this case is obviously not exist into because, like I just said, he passed away when she was very young. Asha is always described so wonderfully by everyone that knew her, friends, family, boyfriend at the time. She's described very loving, very spiritual and introspective and very outgoing and kind. She would always be willing to be friendly to everyone and I think honestly, looking at her, she looks like someone that would have just a great aura, very kind and gentle energy. She's a very beautiful girl and it seems like the what was inside reflected that as well. So in two thousand and twelve her and her family moved from Australia to Albion, California, and she would have been twenty two or twenty three at the time, and she would actually retain her Australian citizenship as well as gaining her US citizens a citizenship, so she held dual citizenship at the time and at the time of her eventual disappearance, which would be in two thousand and fifteen. She had been living with her boyfriend, whose name was or is Jami Gale, for three years. The two...

...had been dating for five years, but they hadn't been living together that whole time, just for three out of this five years. Asia's mom has gone on podcasts like thin air and talked to the media about concerns that she had for Asha in terms of her relationship with Jami, though there is no evidence to prove it, so I'm definitely not saying that this happened. Her Mom, Jeanie, was definitely concerned there was some sort of physical or emotional abuse going on in the relationship, perpetuated by Jami, not by Asha, and actually both Asha's family and Jami have been open about the fact that the family did not like him very much, and I think I'll get into how I feel about Jimi a little bit later, but I think at least the fact that he's open about that does say something, because I think someone was something to hide would be more likely to try and mask that. It definitely doesn't mean that he's totally innocent in the situation, no matter how I feel about it, but I would do give him props for being honest about the fact that him and her family did not get along all the time. So she would disappear in September of two thousand and fifteen. And earlier that year, during the summer, she had gone to visit her sister in Los Angeles and when she returned she didn't say anything to Jami, but he definitely noticed a change in her as soon as she got back. He would state that she made several comments about how she quote, didn't love herself, and as much as he tried to remind her by saying, Hey, you do all of these things for yourself every day, like you take care of yourself, you love yourself, she did not come out of this quote, depressive state. Her and her sister were apparently very close, so this was odd to Jimi and he thinks that something very traumatic had to have happened to her when she went to La and I have to agree with him there. I think it's definitely possible that nothing happened and she just found herself in the midst of a personal and or mental health crisis, but it would seem to me that something had happened, big or small, but she was with her sister. That sort of triggered this change in her. In my opinion, that's not something that just happens. It definitely is possible that it just happened, but I believe that maybe her sister and her had a conversation that shook her up a little, or something of that sort. Jami would also state that, following her visit to La, many of their conversations were about deep personal issues, whereas being together for five years, of course they talked about stuff like that, things that were deep and emotional and personal, but normally their relationship was more lighthearted and fun, and after her visit to La it just wasn't that anymore so. In September, sixteen of two thousand and fifteen, one of Asha's lifelong friends, names Sally, came to stay with her. They had been friends since they were very little, so this should have been a very positive and fun experience for Asha. However, Asha was still not back to her usual self at this time, and Jamai stated on the thin air podcast that Asha actually seemed apprehensive to sally coming. He stated that she didn't really want Sally to be there and upon her arrival it just seemed like they lost their groove or something. They for being childhood friends. Jamia stated that there was some sort of tension or something. They just weren't getting along very well. He even said that Asha seemed to feel like her safe space, which would be their home, didn't feel safe anymore, which is very interesting to me. I don't Sally, to my knowledge, is never spoken to the media or to anyone regarding Asha's disappearance, but I would very much like to know if something went down between ash and sally even before Sally came, because Asha was apprehensive even before she arrived, and I know whenever my childhood friends are coming to visit or I know I'm going to see one of them,...

I'm nothing but excited. I mean I might be a little nervous to talk to someone I haven't talked to you in a while, but it's never apprehensive. It's just some butterflies or something like that. So that is very interesting to me. Maybe that had to do with the mental health crisis that she was in the midst of. But again, I think I cannot put myself into Asha's brain, so I'm not trying to do that at all, but I think if I were in the midst of a crisis, seeing an old, lifelong friend would actually help me. It's not something that I again, would be apprehensive to so I very much am interested in learning more about ash and Sally's relationship. So one night Asha and sally were staying up late talking, and the conversation eventually turned pretty serious. They discussed their father's both of whom had died when they were very young, and they were looking at old pictures from when they were kids. At one point, Sally pulled out a picture of an old house, and Asha's demeanor instantly changed. She stated that she had been sexually abused in that House as a child, though if she's said by whom, that has never been released. And this conversation, it seems, is when Asha's mental health issues really begin to get very concerning. I mean, of course, her being in a depressive state is already very concerning, but this is where she really began to display behavior that suggested she might harm herself or runaway or something like that. When talking to Jami about the conversation, Asha said that she had blocked the memories of her getting molested and that she truly, before seeing that picture, did not remember what happened around this time. She also just started repeating out of nowhere quote I haven't gotten over my father's death. It was also at this time that she stopped both sleeping and eating, despite Jamai continuously making and bringing her her favorite meals and desserts, and Jami reports that Asha was also talking about hurting herself. Eventually, a situation occurred where Asha dialed nine hundred and twenty one on her phone and she handed that phone to Jami and when he asked if she wanted him to call the police or call an ambulance, she nodded her head yes. So he called nine hundred and one one to let them know what was going on and immediately they, the two got in a car and he took her to the emergency room. Once they arrived at the emergency room, Asha was very apprehensive to treatment and she became slightly physically aggressive upon hospital workers trying to treat her. She would slam her feet down in her wheelchair that they had her in to prevent herself from being moved and otherwise physically act out upon hospital employees just trying to help. At one point, she stood up and could not keep her balance. Jami and a hospital nurse had to walk her back to her bed. She then straightened her arms out like a Zombie, according to Jamai, and thankfully a staffer had put a chair behind her to break her fall, because after she did this, she fell again, but she immediately got right back up and ran out. Jemi, who was understandably frantic at this time, asked the hospital staff what he should do, and they said just to follow her at a safe distance so as not freak her out. He did this and he said that he saw her run out from the hospital and onto the road, where she immediately attempted to climb into the car of a family that was driving by. They however, lock the doors and sped off, but almost instantly following that, a car with a lone man that Jami described as, quote, really creepy, then stopped to try and give her a ride. However, upon seeing that Jami was watching them, he sped off as well, which is very suspicious to me. I think that man, I don't think, just to put that out there, I don't think he had anything to do with her disappearance at all, but I definitely think that he had sinister intentions if he saw someone else watching and...

...he sped off as fast as he could. That is very cessed to me. Thankfully, though, I don't think that man plays a large part in the case. We have no reason to think that he stayed and watched Asha and Jami or that he came back around to get her, because she will not go missing for a couple days as of yet. So after trying to get into the car with this strange man, Asha agreed to go back into the hospital with Jemai and mental health professional showed up. The name of this professional has not been released, so I will just refer to him as his job description throughout this podcast. Upon his arrival, Asha began repeating the phrase, quote, Eddie Killed Joy, unquote. Eddie and joy were Asha and JEMAIA's neighbors at the time, and she eventually started alternating between Eddie killed joy and I killed joy. Joy is still alive, joy is not dead. So no one killed joy, but clearly she was definitely entering a crisis at this point. She was really not seeming to be okay. She was given papers by the ntial health professional that would allow her to be discharged, and truly I have no idea why she was giving these. She was so clearly not okay. I mean she had just run out into the street. Jamai had testified to all of her very erratic, very troublesome behavior up until the point that she was brought in. I mean she has been kind of physically aggressive, which I'm not blaming her for. I know mental health crises can be terrifying and they cause people to act out in all sorts of ways, but I cannot believe that the hospital agreed to discharge her so quickly. She clearly clearly needed professional help. But anyway, she was given the discharge papers and she took them and scribbled all over them. After she did this, the mental health professional began to describe some of his patients to Asha. He described a man that slashed his wrists, he even mimed the motions that he did, and he described a woman whose child had recently died, and he said, are these two kind of people you want to be kept with, almost kind of dissuading her from getting help. I mean mental health services or or mental health facilities where people go for treatment, or meant to be safe spaces where you can go and find the professional help that you need. And he was telling her horror stories to keep her out of one, which is just I don't even have words for that. Honestly, that's insane. I've never heard anything like that before. That is so crazy and sus and awful to me. I really again, I don't think this guy did anything suspicious, but I also don't think he deserves his job either, because I can't imagine telling someone in the kind of state that Asha was about a man that had died by suicide or attempted to do so, just to keep her from seeking professional help. That really seems irrational. I just I have a hard time wrapping my head around that because I truly cannot believe that that happens. I know it did. I believe Jamia and the other workers that were there, but that's just insane. It is worth noting that the hospital Asha was taken to is known for being underfunded and Jami, like I just said, feels that the help she the quote help she received scared her off and made her not want to seek any further assistance. And I agree, like I just said, about that guy. He was telling her horror stories. The hospital was accusing her being on drugs. They weren't believing that she was actually having a crisis and even after testing her, they were like very lack of days ago about the whole thing when she clearly needed some serious help. In that moment, Asha's mom would stay in her interview with the thin air podcast that the same mental health professional that had been in the room with Asha and Jami and had really done just a piss poor job, would eventually call her...

...crying, saying that he feels he could have done more to prevent Asha from eventually going missing. And Yeah, Dude, I have to agree. You you really Bosh that, I must say. So. Asha was eventually discharge. They eventually did get her to sign the paperwork and upon this discharge she was not given any medication or any sort of follow up or anything that might have helped her mental state. She was just totally let go. She was released the evening of December twenty two thousand and fifteen, and on the way home she would attempt to jump out of the car two times. The second time she actually succeeded and she got out, but Jami immediately pulled over and went after her and he successfully talked her back into the car. Once they got home, Jami offered Asha some tail in all PM to help her sleep, and he said that she took the bottle and acted like she was going to swallow the entire thing. He has never stated what these actions were, so I'm not sure exactly what it is she did to cause him to think that, but he was afraid that she was going to try to harm herself with this bottle. He was able, however, to wrestle the bottle away from her, but after this she ran into the kitchen and grabbed a knife. He was also able to talk her into giving him the knife. However, Asha did not calm down, nor did she get literally any sleep that night. She just went back to repeating that she, quote, hadn't gotten over my father's US and quote. The next morning, Jamai called his mom and asked for advice on what to do with Asha, and she suggested taking her back to the hospital to get her some sort of medication to help bring her back down to Earth. After this phone call, Jam I discovered that Asha was no longer in their house. He would find her cell phone on the stairs and her jacket in the middle of the road outside the gate, the gate that led to their house. He and Sally then got into Jamia's car and they drove around for a little bit before they finally did find Asha just walking down the side of the road. Apparently, while she was walking, Asha had ran into the neighbor that she had been screaming about while in the hospital, named Eddie. When Eddie called Jamia to tell him this, Eddie said do do you better not at her out of her sight something is or you better not at her out of your sight. Something is clearly not right with her. So that's just going to tell you that Eddie didn't know Asha super well, but even he could tell that something in her was just not okay at the moment. Once they got home, Asha quickly then ran off again, but they found her pretty fast. This time. She was still on their property, just hiding behind a tree. Jamaia asked Asha why she kept running off, and she expressed that she was thinking about harming herself and or ending her life. Jamai, Asha and Sally then decided to go for a drive, because going for long drives was something that Asha often found soothing. On said drive, they passed a little place called the Rollerville Cafe, and this cafe was actually on a cliff that led down to the ocean, right by the beach, they stopped because Jemi thought Asha might be hungry. He knew she hadn't eaten in a couple of days and he also knew that she loved coffee. Once they entered the cafe, a man came over to make small talk with them, and Jami stated that as soon as he began talking, Asha began kind of laughing and crying at the same time in sort of a hysterical way, and Jamai said this, coupled with just how absolutely exhausted she looked from not sleeping the past couple of days, made it quite a disturbing sight to see. She wasn't applying to anything that the man was saying. She was just sort of hysterically laugh crying. So I can imagine that has been very scary for both Jamai and Sally. Once they finished their meals, or once Jamai and sally finish their meals, Asha once again...

...did not eat. Sally got up to go to the bathroom. Asha quickly stated that she wanted to go to the bathroom too and followed right behind her. Just for some context, the bathroom in this cafe was actually, or still is actually located outside in the backyard, so Asha and Sally both would have had to physically leave the restaurant in order to go use the restroom. JEMAIA said that Sally was not aware that Asha had also chosen to use the bathroom right behind her, but that Asha was so close to her that the second sally closed the door heading outside, Asha opened it, so she was right behind her, right there. Once he saw that they were both outside, Jemaia walks back to the car and when Sally came back around, the two realized that they did not know where Asha was. JEMAIA asked Sally if Asha had been in the bathroom with her and she said no, she had no idea. Reportedly that Asha had gone, so they began frantically searching the property, but soon realized that they likely would not find her there. After searching for an hour or two, Sally expressed that she was very tired, so Jamai drove her back to their house and then Jamaia grabbed their two dogs and left to go back and continue the search, calling the police on the way to report her missing. Jamai initially believed that Asha had gotten into a car just with some random passer by because, if you'll remember when she ran out of the hospital, that is exactly what she tried to do. However, he now believes that she left on foot and actually kind of a Saturn interjection here, the same night, September twenty one, that Asha went missing, both of their dogs got out and Jamia was able to find one dog thanks to security cameras that one of their neighbors had. However, the other dog, a German shepherd that I have not been able to find the name of anywhere online, has still not been found to this day. In what is kind of a sweet sentiment, Jamai says that he believes the pup went out to look for Asha, which I believe too. I'm sure that's true, but that is just so sad that Jemi lost his girlfriend and one of his beloved dogs in the same day. The sheriff's Office, thankfully was interested in looking for Asha, but sadly not for the pepper, which I know is not that unusual. You definitely probably wouldn't get plice involved when you lose the animal unless it's to some sort of criminal circumstance, but such is just sad. I wish that my had help finding that little puppy. But something else that this is probably nothing, but it just stood out a bit to me. So I know US crime junkies, when we're watching a crime show or listening to a podcast or something and we hear someone refer to the victim in a very nonchalant way or not by their name or as like that person, that woman, that man, it kind of perks our ears a little bit because we know that that can definitely be a red flag. And in Jamai's interview with the thin air podcast he only refers to the dog as, quote, the German shepherd and quote. He never gives a name, he never gives a gender, he only says the German shepherd, which again, as a true crime fan, kind of comes off as apathetic to me. I mean there's emotion in his voice when he is talking about all of this, but it's just odd to me that the German shepherd were his choice of words every time. Many news articles and Internet forums like read and such speculate that this dog actually went missing because Asha came back for it. But the neighbor I mentioned earlier had cameras, some other people in the area had cameras, and it is just believed that someone would have seen her or she would have been caught on CCTV had she come back for the puppy. I actually very much do believe Jamia's theory that one of the dogs just sense that something...

...was wrong and he went out to look for his mom. So that is essentially all that led up to Asha's disappearance. It is, like I said earlier, not one of the most twisty turny ones I've ever heard, but it's certainly very interesting and it certainly deserves tension because clearly asha had some sort of crisis right before she went missing and if she's still out there she needs all the help she can get. So we're going to get into theories. I mean I think there are three that I would say are plausible. Two of them are kind of the same. They just have different end games, if you will. But the first one is that Asha is now working on one of the many marijuana farms in Humboldt County California. This county and the job market are both prominently featured on the Netflix Docu series murder mountain and actually Asha's mom appears in one of the episodes where she is shown asking locals if they've seen Asha. And if you've seen this show, I watched it a long time ago, so I don't super remember all the details. Of course I watched I rewatched the episode that has Asha's Mon in it before sitting down to record this, but it's essentially about the criminal underbelly of the marijuana farms in California, particularly in Humboldt County, and how many people seem to go there and just disappear. And of course Asha would have disappeared before going to Humboldt County if that's in fact what she did, but she is still a missing person that is connected in some way to these marijuana farms. So that is what both her mom, her family and Jami I believe happened to her, and this is the theory I think. I leaned toward this theory and one other theory equally because traces of Asha haven't been seen or she's hasn't been heard from since she disappeared. So I think it's definitely possible. There have so many people that have gone out to work on these farms and just are never seen or heard from again, and that's my choice and it definitely is clear that Asha wanted to get away, so I definitely think this is possible. I think this is the best case scenario for both her and her family. So truly I hope that this is what happened to her. The second theory, is very similar, like I said, just different end games, is that she is out there somewhere just wandering around. Maybe she became a drifter or became homeless, maybe she has Amnesia and doesn't remember where her home and family are. But, yeah, that she is still alive, which we all want to believe, but that she is not coming home, either by a choice or because she no longer remembers where home is. And, of course, the third theory is that Asha died by suicide that day that she went missing. If you'll remember, the Rollerville cafe that they ate at was right by a cliff. She had already tried to run off a cliff once in the previous few days and she had consistently expressed to Jami that she was thinking about harming herself. Of course, absolutely no one wants this story to be true. I so hope that it's not. It is definitely one that I leaned towards. Equally as much as I lean toward the marijuana farm theory. But what gives me hope is that her body has never been found and even if she had jumped into the ocean, when someone dies by suicide, it's more likely than not that their body will be found eventually. And she's in missing for years now and no trace of her has been found at all. And like I'm repeating myself now, but I'm just fairly confident that if she had chosen to end her life that day, that something would have...

...been found to kind of point us in that direction. But you know, now that I've talked about it for a little bit, I think I am going to take the side of the boyfriend and the family and go with the murder mountain theory. I think I just talked myself out of the last theory because, like I literally just said, I think something of her would have been found and there would be evidence to point to the fact that she had died by suicide. But I'm very hopeful that she didn't make that decision and that she's living her best life on a farm somewhere and hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, one day, her family, her I guess you would call them her ex boyfriend that loves her so much still to this day. They all do well one day have answers. So this has been the story of the disappearance of Asha Kramer. Thank you all so so much for listening. I hope this has distracted you a little bit from the quarantine boredom that I know we're all facing. Remember to wash your hands, don't touch your face, stay safe and make sure you lock your doors by.

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