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Episode 14 · 1 year ago

What Happened to D'wan Sims?

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Hi and welcome back to did youlock the door? The podcast? I'm your host, Peyton Reese, andI have the most special guest with me today, someone I've wanted on mypodcast for a while. I know I've introduced a couple of my guests nowis my best friends, but truly my best friend my mom. Well,are you excited? Okay, so first I just want to take a secondto plug a movie. We just finished watching the invisible man. I've seenit three times now. I love it so, so much. My nonhorror movie mom seemed to enjoy it too. Did you like it, mom?I did. I liked it a lot. Especially appreciate that you toldme when you close my eyes. Liked it. Great Suspense, such agetting done. Yes, so, if you haven't seen the invisible man,that was one of the first movies that was in theaters to get released tovideo. On demands now that we're all stuck at home. So I justwanted to recommend that so highly, really quickly. I have been obsessed withthat movie since it came out. I was lucky enough to see it intheaters, but please watch it at home if you can. Yes, itwould be a great one. In theaters, the quietness of a movie theater thatlook really intense of that and, since FY yeah, the thrill ofit. Anyway, I don't want to put this off any longer. We'llget into the case. Today we're going to be discussing the disappearance of alittle boy named Duan Sims. Duan Christian Sims was born October twenty nine ofone thousand nine hundred and ninety to his mom, Dwanna Harris, and hisdad, Zachary Sims, and the two weren't together. I couldn't find ifthey had been married and had gotten a divorce or they hadn't been married whenthey had Duan, but Duanna did have primary custody of him. She hada boyfriend at the time that was not Zachary. Zachary was still involved inDuan's life, just less so than Duanna was, and Duan, like Isaid, lived with his mom, Dwanna, and her boyfriend at the time inLivonia, Michigan. Duan was described as a lively young boy that lovedwatching TV, his favorite show being the mighty morphin power rangers. We're goingto jump ahead a little bit here. In December of one thousand nine hundredand ninety four, Duan would be about three feet tall and way about fiftypounds, and I'll post a picture of him in my instagram. He hadthe cutest little smile. I love looking at pictures and gays. He lookslike you mean. Just his laugh and smill would be so infectious. MM. He looks like the half be a sweetest little boy. So on theafternoon of December Eleven, one thousand nine hundred and ninety four, Djuanna andJuan would leave for some Christmas shopping at their local wonderland mall at around thirtyin the afternoon, and Juanna estimates their arrival at between one hundred and fortyand two PM. The two would first head into its target that was locatedon an offset of the mall and look at VHS tapes, and Juanna saidthat little Juan really, really wanted to buy one, but she told himthat they couldn't today as they had other presents to buy and the line wastoo long. The two then would walk through a corridor between the target andthe main area in the mall, and she said this was at around thirty. Duan was walking behind his mom but he was talking to her the wholetime, so she knew that he was still there. When all of asudden she asked him a question that was met with silence, and that worriesme right there he was held again for...

...at the time. It just amazesme the number of times you see children walking behind the parent and today's worldanything that children should always be in the front, always. Oh my goodness, I know, with him so young, you would think that she was holdinghis hand or something, but absolutely I guess she thought hearing him talk, she knew he was there, so she probably don't think she had anythingto worry about. But, like I said, she asked him a questionand didn't get an answer, so she turned around and suddenly her little boywas nowhere to be found. The two were, at the time, rightin front of the KB toy store, so d wanna figure that he hadjust ran in to look at some toys? She walked up and down the aislesto try to find him and after searching for about half an hour,she would call her mom, beverly, who was Juan's biological grandmother, tolet her know that she couldn't find him. Dwanna then flag down a cleaning ladyto alert her to the fact that she couldn't find her son. Thecleaning lady then called Mall Security for her and at the same time, beverly, who is the grandma, got into her car and headed to the WonderlandMall. Seems odd that she called someone other than the police as her firstcall a little bit, but I mean she did alert someone who would alertmall security, so I'm sure she's trying not to freak out of this time. You know, Zachary Simms, who again was Duan's father, was alsoalerted as to what was happening and he immediately came to the mall as well. Mall Security would get right on it and send personnel out to search boththe mall and the parking lot, and they also alerted the Livonia police departmentto let them know that a little boy had gone missing. The police woulddispatch an officer and five sergeants to help in the search, and each officerwould be given a different section of the mall parking lots to explore. Thankfully, the mall security cameras were on and fully functional at the time. Iknow it can get so frustrating in cases sometimes where the security cameras just weren'tworking, but in this case they were, so testing whiteness is exactly two weeksbefore Christmas. Target is pat M two weeks before Christmas and every malis and even with a cameras on. HMM, I know. Anyway.So Mall Security would get Dawuana and as far as I can tell, itwas Duana. A mall security officer and a police officer viewed the security footagetogether to see if they could find her and Duan on it and see wherehe might have gone. In an interview with True Crime Garage that I listenedto and some of my research for this episode, a Mall Security Officer wasthere that day and he helped search for Duan. Or sorry, the truecrime garage guys interviewed am all security officer that was there that day and helpedin the search and he stated that he interacted with Juana and she was fullyacting like a mother that was genuinely worried about her son, stating that sheseemed to be providing detailed descriptions about what they had done, where he mighthave gone and she was very, very distressed that day. Duan was describedas wearing a blue hooded three quarter length winter jacket over a yellow and greenwindbreaker, dark blue sweatpants and low top feel a sneakers. Duanna would quicklypoint out a mother and son. That seems to fit the description of herand Duan. The mother and son entered the store target at one hundred andforty four PM, which matched want a story. However, one of themost security officers would quickly notice that the woman on the tape was wearing abrown jacket and a baseball cap. He then looked over at Juanna and wassuddenly hit with the realization that she was wearing a black jacket and had nobaseball cap in site. No Way,...

...oh my gosh, no way,oh my gosh. When investigators pointed out that the jacket the woman was marryingwas not the same color as Duana's, she fell silent. Oh my gosh, Doina this is guy? Well, I mean right there, oh mygosh, and I'm wondering she hasn't called the boyfriend yet? No, shehasn't. We actually don't hear much about the boyfriend. He's not really mentionedin any articles or anything really. I would think if she was involved withsomeone else that would be one of her first calls to, sadly before thefather. MMM, you know, but that she would want him, they'rehelping, to or to know what was going on. So she might havecalled him. But again that's not mentioned in any articles or podcasts or youtubevideos or anything. Not really sure about him. But after a few minutesshe reaffirmed that the woman on the videotape was her. The officers once againpointed out the discrepancies, to which Duanna once again fell silent for a fewminutes before stating, oh well, I guess that's not me what. Thegroup then watch the security footage, starting from an hour before Duanna claimed thatshe and her son had arrived at them all, and at no time didofficers see a boy matching Duan's description on the video tape. They saw plentyof mothers and sons that could have been about the same age, but noone in the clothes that Dwan was described as wearing and no one that matched. Yeah, I mean there was just no one. No woman in ablack jacket and a little boy in a blue overcoat at all. Oh mygoodness. Okay, HMM. And so you don't see them on the videotape at all. You you see her, but we'll get into that a littlelater. But you see her without Duan, in different clothes, withoutwell, in the clothes that she's wearing. But, like I said, shepointed to a woman in a brown jacket that was with a little boythat she, I guess, assumed she could trick the police into thinking washer. But I know interesting duanna would agree to head to the police stationwhere she would provide a statement and then head home, and in that statementshe would essentially say the same thing. They arrived between one hundred and fortyand two PM and she lost him right in front of the toy store.A few days later duanna would return to the police station to take a polygraph, which she would fail. Oh and a couple days after that she wouldtake a second one and, upon realizing that she failed again, reportedly sheripped the paper out of the polygraph machine and left the station. Well,polygraphs, while a failed polygraph definitely does not mean guilty, I would saythat reaction of ripping out the papers is not looking great for her. Yeahall, especially in the eyes of the police. MMM. But still,she's not asked for an attorney or anything? No, not that I could find. Okay, Duana would make statements to the press and the following daysimplying that Duan being a black child had an impact on the investigation, stating, quote, this little black kid is lost in an all white city.Livonia just wants this thing to go away. I googled the demographics for Livonia andI wasn't able to find the ones for one thousand nine hundred and ninetyfour, but I did look at data for the city today, and todayit is eighty four percent white and four percent African Americans. So I wouldimagine that it was even less ethnically diverse at the time. So she's probablynot in correct in the statement that it isn't all white city. I alsofound, though, both through newspaper articles...

...and again in the interview that theMall Security Officer did with true crime garage, that the police did seem to takethis case seriously from the very beginning. The security officer stated that he witnessedfirsthand how hard police officers were working the case, and in a onethousand nine hundred and ninety five newspaper article, then police Sergeant Ken Marlowe revealed thathe kept a photo of Duan on his desk. He was quoted assaying I look at this kid's picture every day. I'm not going to forgethim and I don't want anybody else to forget him. That child did nothingwrong in this whole world. Sadly, Sergeant Marlowe has since passed away.Investigators would receive over eight hundred tips within twelve days following Duan's disappearance. Onetip even led the investigators to Florida to search for the boy. None ofthese tips led investigators to Duan, though, or even to any clues that wouldlead them in the direction of what had happened. When talking to witnesses, several people who had been at the mall that day would report seeing Duana, although all of them said that they saw her alone, not in thecompany of a child at any time, which would be a good reason forher to say he was walking behind her. True, so that they would neverbe seen together. True, but hopefully he wouldn't have been walking thatfar behind her that it didn't look like they were together. That's a recipefor trouble. But now I definitely see what you're saying. My heart isjust branking. Are Any thinking of any mom who in any child who getsseparated it? Oh, two witnesses would actually report that they saw duanna arriveat the mall at Thirty PM alone, implying that Duan was never even atthe Wonderland Mall that day. This doesn't quite fit into the known timeline,as duanna alerted mall employees a little after three PM, so thirty would havebeen a bit late. However, we do know that witness testimony is notalways accurate, so they might have seen her arriving closer to three PM,or they could have seen a woman that wasn't even her. The Livonia PoliceDepartment has stated, though, that they do not believe that Duan ever enteredthe Wonderland Mall on December eleven one thousand nine hundred and ninety four. Firstof all, when reviewing the video footage, they don't see him at all.You see Duana, but you never see Duan. And in a newspaperarticle from two thousand and nine, Livonia detective sergeant by the name of ShelleyHolloway stated we're confident that he never made it to Wonderland Mall and, inreference to video footage of Duana. He said you see her walking around,not reacting or concerns that her son is missing, and yet there's not enoughevidence of any kind for them to arrest her. It just doesn't make sense. In one thousand nine hundred and ninety five, Duanna gave an interview sayingthat she was absolutely devastated over her son's disappearance. She said that she'd beenreceiving therapy to help her cope. And in the same article I quoted earlierfrom Sergeant Marlow, Beverly Arris, who was Duana's mother, is quoted assaying she doesn't smile anymore. She functions, but there's no spirit in her.In one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, investigators received a tip thata bag of bones had been found in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. However,DNA testing would prove that the bones did not belong to little Duan. Inlate two thousand and three remains of a yet unidentified child we're tested against Duan'sDNA. However, they would yet again prove not to be related to thiscase. A couple of years later, DUANNA would move out of the areaquickly marry someone new and have children with this man quickly marry. I meanthat's that's what I said. I don't know. I don't know how quickly, but she changed her last name to either Jackson or wiggins. I've seenit reported both ways. I see Jackson Moore, so I'm leaning towards thatone, but I have seen both reportedly and I don't know how near someoneelse again, true should too. I have seen it reported. I don'tknow how they would know this, so I don't know how accurate it is. Take it with a grain of salt,...

...but I have seen it reported thather new children know little to nothing of Duan, and Duana almost neverspeaks on this aspect of her life anymore. She has said, however, thatshe keeps a photo of Duan in her car and that she looks atit every day. How would you handle that, do you think? Let'ssay she's not guilty, you know, and she is in this new family. How often do you talk about the one you love so much that youcan't that you agree for it? She can't ever agree for because you don'tknow what happened. You know you at some point someone you know, somebodygonness say you've got to stop talking about him or her, and it's likeno, I don't, I want to remember him her. Now she's guilty, that's a different story, but I can't see you guys a parent.I'm sure you can shed more light on that, but I know in listeningto the true crime garage interview, the Security Officer stated that he has kidsnow and he can't even imagine moving away from the place. He definitely can'timagine not discussing his child that went missing, not trying to actively find his childno matter the cost. Yeah, maybe you're right. You think Iwant to stay here so he knows, you know, if he's still here, somehow he can find me. HMM, I know. I've heard, forexample, in the Brandon Swanson case, he was a college age student whowent missing. His parents still to this day leave the porch light onevery night so that he knows he's welcome home should he come back. EvenI'm going back to thing about her in her marriage, if he, ifshe goes by two different names. Potentially, if you're thinking your son, youdon't know what happened to your son, why would you even allow your nameto change? And as he will never find you then ever interesting.That sounds like someone who doesn't want other people to find her. MMM Yeah, she, in my opinion, didn't handle that in the best way,and I know neither of US know what it would be like to be inthe situation, thankfully. But the security officer said that he's located Duana's socialmedia and obviously we have no proof of this, but he comes off aspretty trustworthy to me and he says that there's literally no trace of Duan onher social media anywhere, no mention at all. A lot of stuff abouther new kids, but nothing about due. In late two thousand and nineteen,which would be twenty five years after Duan sins disappeared, a man thatI believe is named might cash. I only found that in one article.There are plenty of articles on this man, but only one of them mentions hisname, so I'm pretty sure it's might cash, came forward stating thathe believed he might be the missing due please confirmed that they met with himand they took a DNA swab. They did say that it could take upto three months before they had the results. And Police Captain Ronald Tag tag tag, it's Taig so if you want to say that stated we're just waitingfor the results. We had so many people put a ton of time intothis work hard on it. You have a major case like this, youwant to get it solved. It would mean everything to me, it wouldmean everything to our organization and it's just one of those big things you'd liketo have closure in. It's tragic. Tig also interestingly remarked that Duanna doesstill keep in touch with the police department when they reach out to her,and that she seems to be very cooperative. Now say why that cash thought thathe would be duet. I found...

...in one article that it said hedidn't know who his birth parents were, but that's all that it said.So not really, but I'm sure. I mean, that's enough of nextnation. Duanna actually did come forward to speak on this man that thinks hemight be her son. She kind of expressed her doubts that he was infact Duan. She said, I have no clue whatsoever. You would liketo be hopeful, and that's all she wrote. It's all she said.Well, I've not been able to find any articles confirming whether or not theDNA results have come back, and trust me. I looked. I wouldassume that, since the detective stated it would take about three months that they'vegotten the results back and it's probably not Duan, I would assume they wouldhave released that it was him by now. So I guess we'll get into sometheories. I mean there aren't that many in this case and I thinkit's pretty obvious that they're all going to revolve around one person. Yes,absolutely, or a boyfriend? HMM, never brought into it. I knowit's very sketchy to me that we never hear anything about the boyfriends, becausethat's you would always look at that element of familial you know, relatives andpeople around him. So HMM, interesting, since it has been all that confirmedthat Duan never entered them all that day. Like I just said,the only theory is in this case do revolve around Duanna. I do wantto point out really quick though, that as far as we know, investigatorshave no evidence that dwanna brought any physical harm to her son and that everyoneis innocent until proven guilty. So I'm simply stating theories. I'm not accusingDwana of any foul play, regardless of what I may personally think. Yeah, I just as did they ever search for car, you know, orsearch the home for blood or anything like that before they just passed her byand did not pursue anything. I'm just flabergasted. Yeah, there's actually nota lot of information out there on what the investigation has been exactly. Theydid report just that they did extensive searches, so I would assume that they did. I would hope that they did. You would think that they seem likea very competent police force. You would think they wouldn't just not searchthe home or search any pieces of property that Duana might have owned. ButI can't confirm that for sure, but hopefully they did so. The firsttheory is that Duanna either sold or gave her son to another family to raise. This is what locals in Livonia seemed to think happened. It's the localrumor going around. It's also rumored that her boyfriend at the time did notwant children. So what locals are saying is that they think she gave hima way to appease this mystery boyfriend that we don't know anything about, supposedto just allowing the father to raise him. Yeah, I didn't see any animositybetween Duana and Zachary, who's the father. When I looked at this, I did see that when Zachary arrived at them all that day, hedid seem particularly angry at Duana, very much blaming her for what had happened. But that could just be a father angry that his son was missing.Not You not keep your eyes? Hmm? Yeah. The second theory is thatan accident might have occurred that resulted in Duan's death. So maybe,instead of alerting police or medical personnel, Juanna chose to get rid of thebody and stage disappearance. DUANNA was a young African American mother in a largelyWhite City, as we've established. So if an accident had occurred, maybeshe felt that she wouldn't have been believed. Yeah, I can understand that.Sure, and depending on what experience...

...she's already had with the police.HMM, true, true, truing, since not excusable, makes sense.And the final theory that I have, you're welcome to put forth more ifyou have any, is that this is the one I most hope is nottrue. Duana or someone in her life might have intentionally ended the life ofLittle Dwan. If this is what happened. It is theorized, obviously, thatduanna somehow disposed of a body and a place that is yet to befound. The police did very, very extensively search Livonia and the surrounding areas. That was documented. So I would think that if he was there,they would have found him, but we never know. I mean with thecase that I did last week, Gannon Stout. He went missing in Coloradoand his body was found all the way in Florida and the stepmom had verylittle time to get the body there. So it's very possible that he couldhave been placed hundreds of miles away. And was that case? The gannonstout January beginning of this year. There's a big difference, though, ineven you know, technology, of course, but the number of cameras that areon the road and in our life today versus one thousand nine hundred andninety for it, or in the s period, you know, because we'rebeing tracked a lot more in today's world than were back then. It wasjust beginning at that time. So it would be harder to see if shewas on, you know, the major highway leading into some place else,and we know that she was never detained. So she I'm sure I could havehad time to drive to some far away place. She had this mysteryboyfriend that probably could have done it. Or, sorry, any number offamily members and friends. Again, I'm not definitively saying that that's what happens, but it is very possible. Unfortunately. Did it reference, either by thefather, for anything that you found, or the grandmother, how long ithad been since they had seen the child? You know? No,it didn't. It didn't in two weeks before or know. That is veryinteresting. It did not say that anywhere. So curious. Wow, it mightbe the optimist in me, but I tend to lean toward the theorythat Dwan was put into the care of another family or Guardian. I meanhe was young enough at the time that, had someone else taken him in,he likely would now have no memory of his previous life or previous family. And, like I just said, the Livonia police performed extensive searches ofthe area, but we mentioned that bones and bodies were founds, none ofthem belonging to Dwan, thankfully. So maybe someday he'll order an ancestry DNAkit. There's something. Yeah, how would that work? You know,how do you just all of a sudden have a four year old boy?I know, I know, on the day before and you don't have anadoption in the adoption paperwork, and you know, how would that work?I just I don't see how that could really process through correctly. I knowin from the legal aspect that would be really difficult today, but in onethousand nine hundred and ninety four, would it have been hard? Had they, say, picked him up and then moves to a completely different city whereno one knew them? Couldn't they just they could, until he got sick, you know, or something you had to take them to the hospital.What if she gave like his birth certificate and medical records and stuff like that? Could do that, except that the first certificate would reflect you, buthere it was and it's not them.

So I know that's not sure.And what kind of person would do that? You know, you're taken a chanceevery day of your life and in fear of being found out and Ohwow, could you imagine that stress? No, no, I cannot.Do you have any other theories? Any other thoughts? You want to adda boyfriend? I know that's so suspicious. I totally agree. It's so suspiciousto me that there is nothing about him. I know that she didnot call him and I just that's huge, hmm to me. And that shecalled her mom. That bothers me before she called anybody else. Shewould call the police first. I mean, you would find somebody first and then, you know. I know I would call my mom too, orI would call you know, but you get help first. I know it'sit is interesting to me because, I mean, I agree that Duan neverwent to them all that day and that she would hundred percent stage the disappearance. But it is interesting that she called her mom before alerting mall personnel,because if it had been the opposite, that would make a little bit moresense. But you're so right. I didn't even think about that. Butthat is that's almost like, AH, what do I do? I call, like I have to get my mom on the same page. So letme give her a call. She can get on her way here. I'llfeel much better. No, I my mom is here, because she'll backme. My mom believes anything I say. HMM. That I have no doubtthat the police did and everything they thought they possibly could, but Ido question why, then, did you not. I mean there's it seemslike there would be ample reason to detain her and to search further in everyway into her life and see what was going on. I know it's interestingto me that that detective, sergeant, Ronald Tigue, Tieg, whatever youwant to say, made her sound so cooperative, because we know she liedabout his disappearance. We know she lied. It's on video that she lied,and especially putting herself out and not passing to lie detect her test,MMM, and pointing herself out when it wasn't even her. I mean whenit generate from the you know, the district attorney or something, saying there'snot enough evidence. Oh, I'm sure evidence and we will, you know, get a Sapana. But yeah, I'm sure, because as far aswe know. I know that the police always know more than they release,but they've been pretty open about the fact that they really don't have much evidencein this case. So I'm sure it's just a matter of they know shelied but they know nothing else. So what the you can't arrest someone onthat. I wish she could. Okay, but I think if we're going tocommit a crime, you go to Juanna sounded again and that's the perfectplace. I know it's so sad because these police officers really do seem tohave tried their hardest and to this day they've never once closed the case oracted like it's gone cold at all. As far as we know, they'restill actively working this every single day. So just the fact that there isnothing that's insane to me, because Duanna was twenty five at the time ofDuan's disappearance. She wasn't some mastermind criminal. And again we don't know the boyfriend. Maybe he was, but it's just insane to me that there isno evidence something happened to this little boy and she has to know more andthere's just nothing. Absolutely fancy him on the camera anywhere. They need tobe pressuring her, or they should have...

...pressured her a lot more. Yeah, if it was just eyewitness testimony that said no, she was alone,that would be like okay, that could not be super reliable. But hewas not on any of the video recordings. They had security footage in pretty muchthe entire mall. Definitely we know in the areas that she said tohave been with Duan and he is not seen on the video footage. Onetime I cannot emphasize that enough. He is not at any point seen onthat security footage. So that's just I know it's such a frustrating case,because we've said this already, but you know she lied. You know shelied. Yeah, there seems to send down in that. It's like that'sjust a head Shaker. HMM, the thought that keeps you up at Nicecould not have been there. What? What? That's so sad. Iknow it's so and again, please go on my instagram. It's at lockthe door pod. I'm going to post a picture of him. He wassuch a cute, sweet, loving looking little boy. Oh my gosh,his smile is just you can tell he lit up a room. He looksso precious. This case is truly so, so sad, because sitting in theSanda s lab MMMM, I mean, something horrible done to him, Iknow. That's why I hope and pray that she gave him to someonethat is now the or he would be older now, he'd be in hislate S, so he might not be living with this family anymore. Buthopefully he was given to a family that gave him a loving, happy life. That's what I'm so praying happened. Who's serious that or is that justone? One thought that was, like I said, the security officer thatdidn't interview a true crime garage said that the locals seemed to be an agreementthat she gave him away or sold him and were selling your child, especiallyif the locals are right and it's just because her boyfriend didn't want kids,because she's clearly not with that boyfriend anymore. So it didn't work out. Soif that's what you did, you did it. Nothing which has beenhappened, you know, HMM, more than we like to think. Yeah, we've seen plenty of case where the significant other was put before the children. Sadly, I know this case, this, like you said, isone that keeps me up. It's like what happened, because I just can'tsee if there was a crime scene, that there is no evidence. orI mean maybe there is, maybe the police have something we don't know about, but you would think if they did, duanna would have at least been detainedor something, and she never was. So I could talk about this oneforever. I mean it just baffles me. Like I will say,though, I don't want to sound like I'm giving her props, but goodset up for the disappearance thing. That's very believable. So maybe if shewas smart enough to do that, she was smart enough to clean up acrime scene. I know that the forensics they had back then weren't as advancedas they are today. So true, I don't know. I just thankyou. Thank on in with any any thing. Search, you know,checking the mattresses or just doesn't make sense. Hmm, you you got. Wegot separated a couple of times, you and I, and it's funnybecause one of them was it Chris this time, and a local attraction toI vaguely do, because I remember, if this is the right time,I remember a woman stayed with me because she saw me crying. She did, she did. You were so smart.

You went heading towards the security guard. I don't think. Yes, and I'm handic you know, sayingwhere is Peyton and you know musick, saying I could shouldn't allow anyone tolag behind us. We were all together and then you weren't there and noneof us could explain how you weren't still just huddled in the center of us. But you did the brilliant thing. We went in search of that securityguard to help you and we were able to find you. Oh my gosh, I was panicked, as you can imagine. But then another time youwere playing a game, you and and I and and grandma were shopping andyou decided to hide in a clothing rap. You are so little you could youknow the circular clothing wraps. You would just you just ran into oneand you were so quiet. You're hiding like Playton Peka Boo, but younever came out. You were saying anything like mom, I got she hasto be here. She was just here, and so we started looking through therocks and sure enough, so here she is. I don't remember thatinstance. I do remember doing that as a child. I'm so socky.It's just so cute how you even thought to do that. Perfect hiding placefor a child. But the difference being if you would had to call thepolice, they would have seen me on the security phenish. Yes, thereis a facebook page that is still up and very active called remembering Duan Sims. It's well, I can't confirm this for sure, it does appear thatDuan's father, Zachary Sims, posts often on this page in a remembrance ofhis son. From what I can see, he's posted for every birthday since facebookwas born and since this group was born. He is the first oneto post updates and to ask people they have any clues or any theories orideas or if they know anything at all. He has been the complete opposite ofdwanna. He has never ever taken the day off from his son's disappearance, it seems, and he stayed in the area. Yes, as faras I know. Did he set the page out? Yeah, as opposedto the MOM. I'm sure the MOM didn't set up I remembering Duan page. Did she? There's not an admin section on the page. Usually withfacebook pages you can see the owner. There is an email, though,that appears to have the name of a woman that doesn't seem to have anyrelation to the family. So I don't think he set it up, buthe is very active on it. From what I can gather. It doestruly seem to be his father and he posts all the time. So ifyou have any information regarding the disappearance of Dwanson's you can contact the Livonia policedepartment at three hundred and three, four, two, one nine two zero.Like I've said, they are still looking at this case as much asthey can. It is not gone cold. The Livonia Police Department is determined tofind this little boy, so they could use all the help they canget. Thank you so so much for tuning in. If you have anycase suggestions or theories about any cases I've talked about on this show, youcan email me at lock the door pod at gmailcom or you can dm meor comment on any of my posts on instagram at lock the door pod,and twitter at lock the door pod as well. Thank you so much tomy mom for coming on this episode. I've wanted her on for so long. Thank you for I was so excited when you agreed. She literally agreedlike ten minutes before we started recording.

When we finished the invisible man,I was like you want to be on this episode and she finally said Yes. So thank you so much. I'm so excited to have you and,as always, make sure you lock your doors by.

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